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thenewgreen  ·  3440 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Anyone here see this? Bernie Sanders speech stopped.

    It's like, TNG will go "ignore the trolls, it's not worth it."

Yep, I will. its not worth it. If I see a comment that starts "fuck #blacklivesmatter I'm probably not going to respond to it. Just like if I'm in a cafeteria, looking for a table to sit at and I hear someone say something I vehemently disagree with, I'm probably not going to sit down and strike up a conversation.

There are any number of other tables, other people in that cafeteria having great discussions etc.

So much of our experience in life and online depends on which table we sit at.

You can look at that cafeteria and say, "fuck this place everyone is an idiot," based on that one table of assholes or you can spend your time at the other 90 tables with thousands of other, smart, kind and interesting people. It's wrong to pretend that the table of assholes doesn't exist but it's disengenous and and false to pretend that the rest of the people aren't there too.

if you're in pursuit of a place online or off devoid of assholes, you will be forever dismayed. If you are in pursuit of a place that will do what it can to diminish the impact the assholes can have, well.... you just left it.

I wish you well in all thay you pursue 8bit. I've enjoyed being a part of your world and having you be a part of mine. I will forever remember that a song I wrote played a supporting role in you meeting a cute girl and beginning to court her. -that was a special moment for me. Thank you.

All my best,

Steve



rinx  ·  3440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Yep, I will. its not worth it. If I see a comment that starts "fuck #blacklivesmatter I'm probably not going to respond to it. Just like if I'm in a cafeteria, looking for a table to sit at and I hear someone say something I vehemently disagree with, I'm probably not going to sit down and strike up a conversation.

I understand that mindset. But as a ex-redditor, it seems like it doesn't work. That was the strategy for a long time - "downvote and move on". The theory was trolls would have their own subs ( redpill, ctown, ect) but that in the community at large, they would be ignored. It didn't work. The trolls & toxic people recruited. They grew and grew until eventually they have a loud voice in the rest of the site. And when they are able to share their views and slowly recruit, not only do they draw other extremists but they convert people who haven't bothered to think through their stance.

Hubski isn't the same as reddit, I get that. But its not a cafeteria other. Extremists tend to find eachother online, and while they would be outcasts in the real world, on hubski certain toxic users already have lots of followers. Sure if you jump into a conversation about feminism or racism you expect things to get heated. But when you try to talk about cars and people inject racist comments, suddenly it becomes a lot harder to filter.

Not saying this site is a cesspool or anything, far from it. But this stance in particular worries me a bit.

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_refugee_  ·  3440 days ago  ·  link  ·  

All the new wave of hubski has been saying it doesn't work. Which means enough people have been having problems with it that yeah, it probably doesn't work. I know we have all seen the threads about "certain users" and so on, and been concerned that people on Hubski feel this way (even while I have been rolling my eyes and like, 'ignore them brah'). I have to confess that if a lot of people are having a problem even if I'm not, and I can kinda see why and how the problem is happening...the solution is not to say that there is no problem and the existing situation works.

It might work after you acclimate, but like...Idk. I'm not about appeasing and i'm not about putting up with someone's shitty behavior just to get along. My family wants me to tolerate my mom because it makes her happy, but it's at the expense of my own happiness. It pisses me off they even think it's okay to ask. I shouldn't be asked to just "shut up and put up," maybe we should try to see if shitty people can be talked to and made into better people.

Of course on the itnernet trolls etc but yeah.

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