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user-inactivated  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Climate change is starting to become a real hinderance on coffee production

I don't know. I think it could honestly go either way. On the one hand, it'll be something that really affects people in first world countries in a non-fringe way. On the other hand, it's something that's enough an inconvenience for us to take notice, but if outrageous gas prices are any indication, not enough for us to actually do anything about it.

I think the greater cause for concern is how it'll affect coffee bean farmers for one and what they'll do as a result. All of the cattle farmers going into the Amazon Forest is bad enough but bringing coffee into the equation makes things even worse.

    Magrach recently mapped out the areas suitable for Arabica farming and compared it to areas of natural interest. In the worst case scenario, she found that we will need to encroach on 2.2 million hectares of rainforest to meet the predicted demand – an area about the size of Wales. The result would be a significant loss of biodiversity.

We owe it to coffee farmers as human beings as well as to this planet to find a good way to resolve this.





War  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I beg to differ remember when The Interview wasn't going to be played in theaters and everyone got their pitchforks out because this was America and we can do what we want? The U.S. gets riled up for some of the dumbest things, and coffee becoming a luxury item is going to be that thing that just pushes us off the edgre. "What do you mean I can't have mocha cookie crumble frap?!"

This is of course not to say that I am not thinking about how this will affect the lives of numerous Spanish speaking countries, and all over the rest of the world. Climate change is a growing problem that we as a human race must stand together to fight.

WanderingEng  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    mocha cookie crumble frap

The types of places that cater to people who order drinks like that will simply replace the coffee portion with an artificially flavored caffeinated syrup. It's the purists who will suffer most, whether it's black coffee, cream and sugar or a traditional espresso drink.

I assume your comment is a bit tongue in cheek, and broadly I think you're right. If it was coffee alone, it wouldn't spur people to change. But if it's coffee on top of hotter and drier summers, shorter but more bitterly cold winters and loss of other crop types (even without famine), people might start to take notice. I don't think any one event will swing public consciousness, it will be the sum of many things.

I like my coffee but I like my pleasant weather more.

TheVenerableCain  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hold on. Let's take a step back. The Mocha Cookie Crumble Frap is fucking delicious. I would get so fat on those every day if I my pancreas wouldn't immediately check out and also it wasn't $50 for one of them.

user-inactivated  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, but if overnight it stopped being available would you find yourself in an existential crisis?

TheVenerableCain  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Of course. Did you know that the Mocha Cookie Crumble Frap (praise be) is only available during the summer? It's like we're living in the Dark Ages.

user-inactivated  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

brb, gotta go re-evaluate my life choices now.

user-inactivated  ·  3406 days ago  ·  link  ·  

People got riled up over The Interview because it became an internet/media spectacle. Had the movie not gotten released, we'd have forgotten about it eventually and let it become just another footnote in our cinema history. We as a country get so worked up on whatever is the hot topic at the moment, only to forget about it almost as quickly.

There are so many huge issues going on in our country right now, from poverty and prisons, to the dismantling of our education system, unemployment and the next economic bubble, and on and on. They're slowly killing us, bit by bit and in very real, obvious, and serious ways. Yet still, we as a collective whole, don't give a shit.

Sadly, I honestly don't think an increase in the price of coffee will have any long term, measurable effect on the issue. We just won't care.