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randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Heroin Heroine of Reddit

The guy gave his brother the drug pre od and told him to use it when he ods because it will reverse the effects...

    He kept one vial for himself and gave the other to his brother. “I told him, ‘Hey, if you ever come in and see me blue, use this.’”

I don't know how you say that he didn't know... He basically planned on it.

Drugs like Naloxone make drug addicts feel invincible. This leads to incredibly unsafe dosing.

This isn't making a anyone safer. The needles, yes. The Naloxone, not even a little bit.

Also the fact that he dosed high enough to need 2 vials of narcan is insane...




WanderingEng  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He planned for the possibility in the same way I wear a bike helmet. He knew his activity carried a risk and took a step to mitigate some of the risks. Naloxone, like a bike helmet, makes an activity some people are going to do anyway somewhat less likely to be fatal.

This article didn't talk about drugs like Naloxone resulting in addicts taking larger doses. I admit I lack the background to discuss whether that occurs or not.

someguyfromcanada  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I was thinking of a fire extinguisher analogy while reading the article. No one that owns a fire extinguisher acts in any more of a dangerous manner just because they own an extinguisher.

randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Heroin addicts are not regular people with a fire extinguisher in the hall.

someguyfromcanada  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I disagree. Please see my other long comment, My buddy that was a heroin addict was more regular and more successful than almost anyone I know.

randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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someguyfromcanada  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Pmed you

randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're awesome. Where in canada are you from?

randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm not saying heroin addicts are bad people, just that they don't always weigh their options logically. And having a safety net for overdoing it isn't a bonus.

randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I admit I lack the background to discuss whether that occurs or not.

This is where my experience trumps yours.

WanderingEng  ·  1238 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Please don't be shy about elaborating.

wrangler  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Are you or have you ever been an opiate addict? Do you have or have you had any in-depth experience with those situations?

Neither do I.

I'm with WanderingEng on this one. We don't give football players helmets so they can hurt themselves more; we give them helmets so that when they inevitably decide to play football, they can do so more safely.

randomuser  ·  1239 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Are you or have you ever been an opiate addict? Do you have or have you had any in-depth experience with those situations? Neither do I.

This is a gigantic, bad assumption. You should really watch the way you state your opinions/experiences vs. project them as someone else's.

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