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Well, there were the whole secret bombings in Cambodia and the coup in Chile, too. That's not what he got pegged for, but still, its at least on par with current abuses.
Americans don't really care about what happens to brown people, so we can just write that stuff off. I was thinking that indefinite detention and assassination of U.S. citizen without any judicial over-site or due process as things the this and the previous administration have been up to without any real uproar. Both practices seem to be far more dangerous to our freedoms then a bit of petty spy craft.
But wth, 911 changed everything right?
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I think both are examples of running around the constitution and the democratic principles of our country, so I'd hesitate to compare.
I've pretty much concluded that I am not voting for Obama. Like hell I'd vote for Romney, but Obama is playing centrist when the right has gone insane. We need a genuine progressive. Not a liberal, a progressive. the left-right dichotomy is nonsense.
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Really? you don't like him cause he is running to the middle? He asked that an exemption be removed from a bill that would allow American citizens to be held indefinitely without any due process or trial and you are worried that he isn't a liberal? Any one of us could at least for a time be arrested and held without a warrant, without any notification that we are being held by the U.S. government, without evidence, without a trial and you are still worried about his progressive credentials. In fact laws like this are completely progressive, showing a foul willingness to change the way government deals with problems, not fettered by things like constitutions, tradition or even decency.
This president is an outrage.
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Don't get me wrong, what I mean, is that the center he is running towards is not a real center at all. It has been defined by a right that has forgone reality and settled on idealism and slogan. I'm extremely disturbed about the state of things, and Obama's politics.
I wrote both my Senators (Levin sponsored that Bill), and the Obama campaign about that Bill. The Obama campaign's response was basically: "But he added a signing statement." Neither Levin or Stabenow responded, which is unusual for them.
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I also think that "crimes against humanity" seem vague to the average citizen while breaking and entering is a clearly defined illegality. Also, let's not forget that in just the last 20 years our national attention span has turned to that of a gnat. It's easier than ever to divert the citizenry's attention from glaring hypocrisy and obvious overreach to say... "gas prices".