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galen  ·  3517 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Trans-Pacific Partnership suggests Obama has no sense of irony

Serious trouble parsing this one. Mind rephrasing?





user-inactivated  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"American IP is stolen at alarming rates" is a ridiculous thing to say. "Stealing" implies the owner of a thing is deprived of the thing stolen. It is impossible to steal intellectual property. Intellectual property is not a thing, it's a bad analogy that justifies laws allowing publishers to monetize the culture we should be freely sharing with each other. It has always been that way, and arguments about the benefits to authors have been rhetorical slight of hand from the beginning. The only way we will be rid of IP protections is for them to become unprofitable, or for the industries dependent on them to die off. Either way, widespread not-really-stealing hastens that day, and so is a good thing.

b_b  ·  3515 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The utopian vision of the Internet set is one in which nobody makes money off anything. Somehow, movies, cars, novels, and everything else would still get made in a world where anyone can sell anything.

Remember: ideas and creations aren't the same thing. People put real blood sweat and tears into creations.

user-inactivated  ·  3515 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because no one created anything before the Statute of Anne.

galen  ·  3515 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Before the Statute of Anne there was a system of patronage under which artists were still paid for their work.

user-inactivated  ·  3515 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, they were paid for their work just like any other worker. It was not necessary to be able to collect rent on the product of that work indefinitely. That's the more common case now too; it's publishers who derive significant income from licensing, and publishers are quickly becoming irrelevant.

galen  ·  3515 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Quatrarius  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm guessing, but:

    So long as there's enough money behind convincing us to by into ideas being property that can be stolen

People are trying to make the idea that "ideas are property and can be stolen" more popular.

    that "American IP is stolen at alarming rates" doesn't sound ridiculous to most ears

Those same people are doing this to push tough copyright restrictions(?)

    piracy isn't widespread enough.

We should reject this idea by pirating things.