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ERUERUFU  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Kanye West Say About the Black Experience in America

"I would be willing to bet money that not a single person in furgeson considers black people as less than human"

Are you one of those people that suggests that if you don't say n*gger then you're obviously not a racist? What coddled little town do you live in to believe that people don't treat black people as less than human? "I am willing to bet that instead they will talk about the black people being poor and ending up in jail on their own merit."

Email of Ferguson officer: Mudd, 64, was linked to an email sent in November 2008 which suggested Barack Obama “would not be president for very long because ‘what black man holds a steady job for four years?’

Mmm yes you were right. No one there has twisted views. NOPE.

"And I am not interested in your video of a single person in a single situation. I have seen actual, well researched, studies, that say everything I need to hear about discrimination."

Did you actually type this out thinking it'd make you sound intelligent and credible? Please post all of these well researched studies that apparently single handedly taught you all there is to know about discrimination. I was not aware that such things existed!

"My point isn't that such things do not exist, but instead that ranting and raving about how society treats black people as inhuman and how wrong society is will fix nothing, accomplish nothing, and lead to a society that is stuck in a ditch while yelling at each other."

Then how do you suppose we go about things, oh wise and all knowing? And clearly you have not read what you have typed, because most of what you say suggests that you believe none of this exists.

Also you basically refused to acknowledge someone's evidence with no real reason. "a single person in a single situation." Honey you're cute if you think this is an isolated case. REALLY adorable.

There's too much ignorant to even touch on in your posts. "The perfect person doesn't exist, and we all make mistakes and have flaws." Especially when you're attempting to pull out these types of holier than thou comments. You should reread what you wrote. Some of it is pretty embarrassing, considering you thought it was legitimate arguing.

I mean you attempt to call out eightbitsamurai with the whole "not being a black person isn't a valid argument." Yet you pull out bull like that. Practice what you preach. Really, the whole no-one-is-perfect defense is 1000x weaker.

Anyways, I'll pray for you. Pray that one day you'll realize that being such a pedant just makes you an asshole. Treating someone inhumanely does not automatically mean you are being enslaved. That kind of thinking is what is toxic.





ButterflyEffect  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey ER, if you surround text with | it will quote it. You can find more formatting and markup tips on the top right of the comment submission box.

ERUERUFU  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

thank you, kind butterfly! I was eyeing the faded out quotes, wondering how such sorcery worked.

bioemerl  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Are you one of those people that suggests that if you don't say n*gger then you're obviously not a racist?

No?

Were you expecting me to say yes?

    Email of Ferguson officer: Mudd, 64, was linked to an email sent in November 2008 which suggested Barack Obama “would not be president for very long because ‘what black man holds a steady job for four years?’

    Mmm yes you were right. No one there has twisted views. NOPE.

Do you understand that this is supposed to be a joke?

Do you understand that the people sending it aren't aware of the harm or damage it causes?

    Mmm yes you were right. No one there has twisted views. NOPE.

No, they don't. They are uninformed, they are unaware, but they aren't evil, they aren't twisted, they don't hate black people.

A different argument I saw had a similar link in it. The very first quote was the officer apologizing and saying he didn't realize it was racist.

Now, you could be cynical and say the person was just hiding his true racism, I guess? However, I tend to assume the person is telling the truth.

    Did you actually type this out thinking it'd make you sound intelligent and credible? Please post all of these well researched studies that apparently single handedly taught you all there is to know about discrimination. I was not aware that such things existed!

I am talking about studies that show that people act differently around black people, that people stereotype black people, and so on. I have no links to them, because they were seen in the past, probably linked randomly on reddit or other places.

Those things are legitamate and honest, scientific, research. Single videos of a person in a store are meaningless when you are talking about an entire nation.

    Then how do you suppose we go about things, oh wise and all knowing?

I kind of imply above, but I made another post on this already, with someone who is far less sarcastic, and far better at typing responses.

    Also you basically refused to acknowledge someone's evidence with no real reason. "a single person in a single situation." Honey you're cute if you think this is an isolated case. REALLY adorable.

I... don't... I just said in my above post that I have seen studies that show such things occur around the entire nation.

My point is that a single video like that is emotional bait. It's the same thing I tell to vegans who try to get me to watch earthlings.

    There's too much ignorant to even touch on in your posts.

So, please, tell me why I am wrong.

    "The perfect person doesn't exist, and we all make mistakes and have flaws." Especially when you're attempting to pull out these types of holier than thou comments.

Yes, because I am aware that you can't expect everything of everyone. However, when I talk about what people should do, I am going to talk about this "perfect person". The person who does everything in a moral way, and always does what is right.

That is who we should all try to be. However, nobody is perfect.

    I mean you attempt to call out eightbitsamurai with the whole "not being a black person isn't a valid argument." Yet you pull out bull like that. Practice what you preach. Really, the whole no-one-is-perfect defense is 1000x weaker.

With that I was trying to say that I don't expect people to go out and sacrifice their own good for some higher cause. I was trying to say that despite a thing being the "good" thing to do, we shouldn't expect people to do it. Doing what is right doesn't mean you have to do everything right. Knowing and saying global warming exists doesn't mean you have to abandon all use of CO2, for example.

_refugee_  ·  3516 days ago  ·  link  ·  

oh blah blah blah