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galen  ·  3610 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Paint By Numbers Love - a song I offer up to the originalmusicclub

Found it! Rough cut below.

kleinbl00





kleinbl00  ·  3610 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You rawk. I need to dig into this shit.

thenewgreen  ·  3608 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Have you had a chance to touch any of them yet? I'm curious what you can make of them. There are some good tracks in there, for sure. I'm excited to hear your interpretation.

kleinbl00  ·  3608 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I spent 4 hours trying to carve a bass track loose of the first one using Spectralayers. It was super-ineffective.

It pretty much comes down to "if I can get individual tracks I can do something" and "if I can't I can throw the whole thing through Ozone and make it sound even more like what it sounds like."

On the road for the next week. Nothing happens 'til after the Superbowl.

user-inactivated  ·  3608 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I spent 4 hours trying to carve a bass track loose of the first one using Spectralayers. It was super-ineffective.

Now I'm curious, why can't you use independent component analysis to separate a recording into separate tracks? A little googling finds a few papers doing just that, but I don't see any commercial software doing it.

kleinbl00  ·  3608 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because noise and overlap. Sound is largely characterized by harmonics and while you can break the fundamental loose, the harmonics are forever fucked.

Sony Spectralayers used to advertise that they could do this - it was their leg up over Izotope. however, once you break out of their carefully sandboxed demos, you discover that trying to get a guitar out of a song is a lot like trying to get piss out of a swimming pool.

Here's the white paper of Izotope, using their original RX algorithm. I have RX4 and it's orders of magnitude more refined.

In digging a little deeper, it appears that the primary use of ICA is facial recognition. To use an analogy, what we need musically is "facial reconstruction." Yes, I can carve up a sound file enough to go "yeah, that sounds like a bass." I cannot, however, do it cleanly or surgically enough to go "and it's so pretty I'm going to frame it and hang it over the mantlepiece." And I'm really f'ing good at noise reduction and the strategies thereof.

kleinbl00  ·  3599 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Aaargh! Set the drums to downloadable pls!

galen  ·  3599 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh my bad, I thought I already had. Done

kleinbl00  ·  3599 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fuck yeah

galen  ·  3599 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Making good use of history class.

thenewgreen  ·  3609 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I listened to both the song and the isolated drum track. Great work! You get a really nice sound from just that one mic, well done sir!

galen  ·  3609 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks! Finally a vindication for all those hours spent tuning :)

thenewgreen  ·  3609 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I wonder if the drums could be higher in the mix though, I could hardly hear them ;-)

kleinbl00  ·  3607 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Quit kvetching I got this