I could have sworn I saw something thenewgreen said regarding you taking some sort of official position with the site. Regarding point 3, correct. Entirely correct. But I wasn't at all referring to the kerfuffle you referenced, more your apparent general disdain for the initial confused kicking of new users. Combine that with your established internet pedigree and it generates a certain perception. 'Suffer not fools to post/communicate(with me).' Yes, there should be a barrier to entry that stops shitposting and users with, as you said, no intent of integration, adaptation or patience. But those people will self-select out rather quickly, by nature of the site. I'm interested in making it easier/faster to recognize diamonds in the rough.
I was on a conference call. Once. We're having this discussion because of one word you just used: "apparent." I haven't said shit to denigrate new users. I've chimed in several times on new features and structuring for new users, for more users, for continued growth. I've never once taken the tack that Hubski should be left alone because it's plenty big enough - I always run new feature discussions through the filter of "what would this mean with ten or a hundred times the traffic. Search Hubski for "Vinod Khosla" and see what I mean. True - I generally stay out of the "Hello, Hubski I'm new" discussions because the obligatory "welcome" from every mother's son ends up being a thousand comments of zero content each. But the ones that ask questions? Check out Badge #100. That was from me to a new user that had never posted before. But right here: here's where we disagree. Explain to me how you aren't just making it harder for them to do that... if #newtohubski really and truly is accomplishing everything we collectively want it to. And if it isn't, shouldn't we improve #newtohubski instead of developing something else in parallel?Yes, there should be a barrier to entry that stops shitposting and users with, as you said, no intent of integration, adaptation or patience. But those people will self-select out rather quickly, by nature of the site.
I apologize for my sloppy language. And I never meant to intimate that you aren't interested in the growth of the site, though I understand how it came across that way. I believe that #newtohubski is good, but lacking a more humanizing element, and one possible solution I offer is a list of users who are directly interested in talking with and helping new users. We have this informally already. TNG does a great job of getting people pointed in the right direction, but if somehow, we were getting, say 1000 new users a day, I wouldn't expect him to get to all of them. Maybe we just need more active use of #newtohubski, maybe something else entirely. I see a problem and I propose one solution while fishing for other ones. That's all.