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kleinbl00  ·  3652 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Marat Ryndin: Why Did Google Decide To Split Inbox From Gmail?

This is how bad it is:

- Cloudmagic on phone

- gmail on phone

- Postbox on laptop

- Thunderbird on studio computer

Why? because that's what I need to do in order to get the eight accounts I maintain (across 3 services - and that doesn't include the email addresses like Yahoo and msn that I have for other services) working. And every month, I fire up Mac Mail on the Monster to run MailSteward because you know what? I do need to find shit written three IMAP VARs ago in 2004 every now and then.

Email is such a pigfuck.





user-inactivated  ·  3652 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So could an email app not be created that could let you manage all eight accounts on all 3 services in one app? Like a sort of dropbox for mail? Or is it something intrinsic in the services themselves that prevents a one-app-fits-all scenario?

kleinbl00  ·  3652 days ago  ·  link  ·  

All accounts are on all devices. That isn't the problem.

CloudMagic can't get its shit together on Android to properly address the notification screen with regularity. Gmail can't be deleted from Android and I'l be damned if I know how to get it to shut the fuck up.

Meanwhile, the EFI on the Macbook is more stable with Postbox than with Thunderbird, for some reason, while folder performance is better on the Mac Pro with Thunderbird than Postbox.

Neither of these Mozilla forks will talk to MailSteward, which is the best mail database program I've found, which only talks to Mac Mail, which is a bloated pig that can't get out of its own way most of the time. And get this: it doesn't concatenate its queries. And you can't tell it how often to query. So if you've got 5 IMAP accounts on your Hostgator account and Mail decides to check every two minutes, that's 50 queries every 10 minutes. And if you have those same accounts on your iPhone, that's 100 queries every 10 minutes. And if you leave Mac Mail running on the tower while you go to work, that's 150 queries every 10 minutes. And only Mac Mail does this, and when you talk to Hostgator about the fact that your website keeps going down, they say "yeah, Mac Mail is so uncivilized that it effectively DDOSes your own server if you have more than a device or two talking to it. Better switch to something Mozilla. Or, you know, upgrade hosting to the $150 a month package."

So on the Mac side, it has to do with the fact that the native app is bullshit and the 3rd party apps are half-assed. I mean, it's not like Mozilla gives a fuck about Thunderbird. Postbox is basically a Thunderbird haxie with not-very-good support but for an extra $10, it works better sometimes.

And on the Android side, I get a real Ikea-like vibe - yeah, theoretically you can build Android into behaving like iOS, but the instructions are vague and you're missing a few parts, so you have to go back to the warehouse and fish through bins of picked-over bits to find the right screws to hold your hutch together.

And that's how you end up with four different apps (6, if you include the archiving) just to check your goddamn email.

veen  ·  3652 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Gmail can't be deleted from Android

I've deleted Gmail last week, by going to settings -> apps -> gmail and deleting it there. Might be a Cyanogen quirk?

kleinbl00  ·  3652 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can disable it. I can't delete it. Disabling it threatens to anger the gods.

veen  ·  3651 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I disabled it, thinking I could then delete it, but disabling Gmail deleted the app for me and reinstalled the stock Email app. And hey, you can always reinstall Gmail if something goes awry - it's in the Play store.

kleinbl00  ·  3651 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, I suppose. Dunno. I have more things to say in this space once I'm done with my coffee.

ironpotato  ·  3651 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I just disabled notifications, took me a minute to figure it out, but the option is there in the settings. Granted we're probably on two entirely different versions...