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thenewgreen  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The Pretender: Why 'I Can't Stand Dave Grohl' | BDCwire

Thanks for the compliment, I hold your music taste in high regard and it heartens me to know that you have checked out some stuff Ive posted. As for Pearl Jam, there's a reason I haven't listened to an album of theirs that they've released past me being 22 years old. It's nostalgia for me. I really don't disagree with you and I'd be bummed out if I thought that you equated my music library with PJ. In the realm of my musical influences PJ is almost non existent. In the realm of the soundtrack to my youth, they're everywhere. As such, I'm able to be transported to a time and place that was special to me when I hear Ten, VS, Vitology and even Yield. Beyond that, I don't think I could name a song or an album.

But yeah, I tend to agree about them and the Foo Fighters. Not a lot of soul in there, even less in the FF.

I'm surprised that you're not a Neil Young fan. He has some really amazing music. Thanks for the links





user-inactivated  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

cgod thenewgreen

What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_%28soundtrack%29

Also, Pearl Jam kicks ass live, even 20 years after they stopped making good music.

thenewgreen  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I also listened to the song cgod did. I actually enjoyed it, it's not fantastic, it's never going to be on a mix I make for someone (yeah, I still do that) but it's a fine song. If we are getting rid of artists that sing about "white guy problems" -whatever that is? I suspect there's a lot we will be throwing out.

Again, I'm not a huge fan, but I'm not a detractor either. PJ has a major place in my past. I'm not familiar with Eddie Vedder solo work, but he did do a song with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan a while back and when listening to it, all I could think was damn, this song is awesome I just wish it were only Nusrat.

cgod  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

For the most part I'm over hearing white guys with guitars bitch about how troubled they are. There are so many things which I find immensely more stimulating and inspiring that I have no time for groany cliche. Occasionally a troubled white boy strums his way to my heart but It's less and less common every year.

thenewgreen  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sorrow cares not of pigment and all pain is relative, but I suppose I get where you're coming from.

cgod  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not absolute but if I'm going to listen to a White guy with a guitar bitch about love I'd rather it be Hank Williams than Eddie Vedder.

cgod  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I just gave "Hard Sun" a try, it was the "hit" off that album.

It's a White guy problem song. The world is hard (he even thought about killing himself), he has a great girl that he keeps leaving but she always takes him back.

The guitar is lost somewhere between rock and country, if I were him I've pushed for a bit more country might have given this thing some soul. It's him singing alright, way toned down from PJ but it's his affectations, once again maybe he should have cut a little country.

Pretty sure that I'd have a bad time seeing them live. I've been won over by bands that I didn't like going into a live show so who really knows (the opposite is true as well). I'm sure that ticket prices for them would be high enough and their opening band would never be tempting enough for me to give a PJ show a shot.

user-inactivated  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I saw them at ACL or I certainly wouldn't have bothered. Hand it to Vedder -- that was the mud year (infamous), and he got right in it with us and slid around.

God I have never been that dirty.

Cumol  ·  3446 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have to say the Ten is probably one of my most played albums. Tried listening to the other ones, didn't connect to them. I discovered Ten when I was a teen, 15 maybe? And it did hit a nerve. Still love listening to it :)

Into the wild was an amazing soundtrack. You should check it out...

As for Dave grohl, I didn't know he was in nirvana (oil and feather me...) but I also never had a foo fighters track on my lists. No idea why

cgod  ·  3447 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I own and listen to a few Neil Young records. I'm not a fan but really enjoy some of his work. I'd say I am a fan of CSYN, I can listen to just about anything they did and have a good time. There are Neil Young albums that I find unlistenable.

If I had to guess the single biggest influence in your music I'd guess the Beatles.