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user-inactivated  ·  3766 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Poem from a reddit user about the second ISIS beheading. To the tune, probably intentionally, of Masters of War.

_refugee_ can you provide some critique because this did absolutely nothing for me.





_refugee_  ·  3766 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes. I think a problem this poem suffers from is a lack of depth. There is no shift in the poem; the viewpoint is the same from beginning to end. This causes the poem to be unsurprising. I think the poem is also too long, in part because it is repetitive in viewpoint and also in word choice. About a stanza should be cut out.

The meter's good, the rhyme is good, unfortunately, the content isn't really.

To be fair it's a really interesting meter that the poet chose here which is one of the reasons it's so catchy. Each line begins with an iambic foot (du DUH) followed by repeating anapests.(du du DUH) It's very consistent throughout the whole poem. I could have fun playing with the structure. The reason there are long lines followed by short lines is that the length of the long lines is equal, about, to two short lines. So you could just break all the long lines into halves, put a stanza break between each rhyme set, and all of a sudden you'd have 12 quatrains instead of 3 sestets. With of course the final line separate.

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. You thirsty savages,

  your sickness for war.
  You think that you fight 
  for what you deserve?
  You speak for your people,
  draw in a breath,
  then sully their honour 
  with violence and death.
  You say you are praying.
  You're making a plea –
  But you murder the innocent, 
  the young and the free.
  Your proof and your truth
  And your justice all lie -
  The court and the critic 
  are a coward's disguise.
  You think that you're pious
  But feed off of gall,
  Subsist on poison,
  spread hate among all.
  You're monsters.
  I say it again -
  You're savages.
  You're cowards.
  You're pure, all right:
         pure American.
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See at the end here it gets really weird, like the problem with the propagators is that they're men, when really I think they mean "human" maybe. Or "Americans." Let's go with that.

oh whoops totally missed that this was an anti ISIS poem. damn. I guess "American" doesn't work here at all but whatever. Do you see what American does? It turns the entire fucking poem up on its head and you're like "Damn." This poem actually has a punch. That's what the original is lacking.

bioemerl what I would ask you is not is this a good poem - just - is it any better than the original? If so, my point stands. It's not really my content that you're critiquing; don't fear about stepping on toes.

bioemerl  ·  3765 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I deleted my comment about ten seconds after I made it. How in the world did you see it?

user-inactivated  ·  3765 days ago  ·  link  ·  

email updates, friend

bioemerl  ·  3765 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well then.

Note to self: stop making comments and deleting them.

_refugee_  ·  3761 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Why make comments and then delete them?

In addition, at some point I think the content gets wiped out of deleted messages from e-mail updates, but I usually find 'em in my email before that happens. I'm a consummate email checker, compulsive maybe.

bioemerl  ·  3761 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because after I post my comments I read them again.

_refugee_  ·  3761 days ago  ·  link  ·  

that does make sense and that's why i am sometimes a hefty editor

bioemerl  ·  3766 days ago  ·  link  ·  
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user-inactivated  ·  3766 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think in this case it definitely helps to have heard the song in question, but obviously poetry is subjective as all get out anyway.

Kipling famously wrote poetry for the masses, as it were.

kleinbl00  ·  3766 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The problem is rhyming doesn't make poetry and poetry doesn't require rhyming.

    Doggerel is usually the sincere product of poetic incompetence, and only unintentionally humorous, as with the work of Julia A. Moore, the "sweet singer of Michigan":

Most critics of poetry hate on Kipling a lot but he wouldn't write "for you and for yours."