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lil  ·  3760 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Philly Trip Report, AKA Miniature Hubski Meetup!

This is heartwarming and a little heartrending to read. Almost makes me want to cry this morning - ok, there are tears.

You are the first non-mom I have ever read who gets it.





humanodon  ·  3760 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, let's just say that understanding has taken a long time to acquire. Even though I understand, it still gets on my nerves sometimes, but I try to be better about dealing with it.

Why heartrending?

b_b  ·  3760 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm going to take a leap here and guess that our fair lil hopes for the day when her own progeny will have the same insight as you. It may be heartrending to read that some kids eventually become aware of the selflessness with which parents act all the time.

lil  ·  3759 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey b_b thanks, for your thoughtful leap. I originally answered humanodon via pm, but since seeing your comment, let's see how your attempt at an explanation matches my answer:

    Why heartrending? because your post points to how helpless parents are. We bring up kids to be creative and independent at our own peril - but the alternative, bringing up kids to be helpless and dependent is worse. It's heartrending in the way the last lines from My Dinner with Andre always seem to get to me:

    "Well, have a real relationship with a person that goes on for years - That's completely unpredictable. Then you've cut off all your ties to the land, and you're sailing into the unknown...into uncharted seas. I mean, you know, people hold on to these images of father, mother, husband, wife... again for the same reason - 'cause they seem to provide some firm ground. But there's no wife there. What does that mean? A wife. A husband. A son. A baby holds your hands... and then suddenly there's this huge man lifting you off the ground...and then he's gone. Where's that son?"

    We can't really protect our kids because they have to have lives of their own. galen is already straining the leash. Another year or two, and his mom will be lucky if he phones once a week.

    Let me tell you how pathetic it is to be a mom: I figured out that if I played Facebook scrabble with my daughter, I'd know that she was still alive.

    She works a midnight shift in the suburbs on "Upper Middle Road." Trust me, any place called Upper Middle anything is in the upper middle of nowhere, and on nights when there are no late buses, she rides her bike six km from the the train station.

    I don't want to bug her with texts and email - but at least when she makes her scrabble word, I know she's still alive.

b_b  ·  3757 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sounds like I was off a bit in my fundamental assumptions. Such is the inexperience of not being a parent. Empathy fails when we don't have the requisite experience with which to empathize. Next time, I'll keep my speculations private.

lil  ·  3757 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It was an understandable assumption. humanodon's perspective towards his mom is something most people grow up to realize. I don't need said daughter to "become aware of [my] selflessness" per se. Parenting is a kind of self-serving selflessness. My guess, though, is that most parents become aware of their powerlessness at some point. To slightly paraphrase William Glasser: the only control we have is through the strength of the relationship.