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comment by kleinbl00
kleinbl00  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: "you are muted here"

That's not a problem, that's a feature.

nowaypablo had you muted. You got bent about it. Somehow or other, the two of you set aside your differences and community was forged.

I've got like 58 people muted. Each and every one of them either:

a) is a spammer

b) can't have an argument without resorting to ad-hominem attacks.

The rest of them - and there have been something like a dozen - have apologized and life goes on.

You're right - if you try to piss in one of my posts, and I decide I don't like your face, I can censor you. If you don't like that, you can try apologizing. If you don't, you can move on. Either way. you aren't constitutionally entitled to comment on everything you want. You can "follow" whoever you want, wherever you want. The counterbalance to that is to tell someone "fuck off, I don't care if you follow me, I can curate your ass right out of my feed."

I'm muted a few places around here. I'm totally fine with that. those are battles I've won. If I felt like groveling and making things all better, I would - but the only reason I would do so would be to tell those people they're wrong all over again and that benefits exactly no one.

If you can be civil, you can ask to be unmuted. If you can't, you have no business replying. Period.





ghostoffuffle  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Dude. I've asked to be unmuted to apologize to you a couple times now through third parties. Still muted. What the what?

Don't like bugging you publicly, too much unnecessary drama, but can't PM you because I'm muted.

Would happily apologize for dickish behavior, but I can't without being unmuted. Pretty please? Cherry on top? Don't have to be all buddy buddy with you, but I do have to apologize regardless.

kleinbl00  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You:

1) Reached out to one other person

2) Were told by that one other person that you had been unmuted

3) Made no attempt or overture to reach out to me for a straight week

4) Were muted again upon revisiting the comments that got you muted in the first place.

You said you wanted to apologize. Then you didn't. That's the system at work right there.

ghostoffuffle  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Okay, yeah, one other person. But, and I don't like to admit to this level of obsession: I tried PM'ing a couple times a day after he interceded, and every time I got that "you can't PM somebody who has muted you" message, after which point I gave up because I assumed you just didn't want to deal with me. Seriously, the first interaction was a bad, bad thing, but the lack of interaction after that was a comedy of errors. Or just errors.

user-inactivated  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

why is klein worth your time?

nowaypablo  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

lol i have you muted too. bless this feature.

user-inactivated  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Part of fasting and not waking up till 3 or 4 PM is that I get to see wondrous posts like these after the fact. I remember distinctly my last comment to mreil, and it was something along the lines of "may your complaints about Hubski on Hubski be long and unfruitful." Looks like he took that to heart.

I don't see any point in engaging him any further, so...I dunno. But it's weird to me that he thinks the site is the reason Hubski is a bad place, when in reality it's just because he's an unpleasant person and no one likes interacting with people who are unpleasant.

Regardless, I'm just going to watch from afar and hope this works out in some way.

mkr  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

| You got bent about it.

I'm trying to figure out which part of my post gave this impression. Can you point it out? I'll use that to improve future posts.

kleinbl00  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You kind of made an entire post about it.

mkr  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I made a post about the scope of the feature, not the specific mute. Probably wasn't clear about that.

kleinbl00  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're more transparent than you think. Had you wanted the situation resolved personally, you could have messaged any one of those people responding to the thread to say "hey, could you ask nowaypablo why he has me muted?"

You didn't. You made a public #hubski post to decry the entire system. An over-reaction? Probably, considering it's the third "muted" post we've had in two days. Would you prefer I said you "over-reacted and made a public spectacle over a personal problem?" Because that's what I mean by "got bent about it."

user-inactivated  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

I wonder if fixing the 'mute' issue would also stop people making posts about it constantly.

What do you think kleinbaby?

mkr  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The first one was a misunderstanding that we quickly resolved. The second was a hilarious parody thread where we all had fun. The third is this one where the rest of us are having a nice chat about possible modifications to the feature.

nowaypablo  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll reply to you here mkr (thanks kb), I had you muted because of some bullshit arguments you were having with some other people, and because I couldn't get them out of my face every time I went on my Feed, I triple-blocked you. After I realized that meant you couldn't communicate with me, I unblocked your ability to reply to posts/comments. It wasn't personal, and we have had no beef towards each other. Hope you understand.

Edit, also I'm not sure what you mean when you say "no one will see it."

mkr  ·  3778 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I understand completely. I went and cleared out my mute list once I realized how it worked.

| Edit, also I'm not sure what you mean when you say "no one will see it." '

My understanding is it also keeps other people from seeing it, not just the person who muted. Uncle Ben would not approve.