I want to eventually try, but am still not willing to surrender myself to that experience yet. Several friends have done the Ayuhuasca ceremonies and they all basically fall in line with what's already been said. There doesn't seem to be any inconsistency or exception to the experience that I've encountered personally or that has been logged by others on the internet. It's a very very powerful experience not to be taken lightly. That said, the Ayuhuasca experience is a different beast than the simple smoking of DMT (which anyone with sense can synthesize pretty easily). Smoking DMT is a short and completely immersed experience (~30min give or take.) The full Ayuhuasca experience can be like 12hours and you basically come in and out of "wherever the fuck it is that you go." What I can speak on that interests me particularly about the Ayuhuasca experience is the perception of "default reality." If other Hubski member have used psychedelics, science says what's happening is just certain chemical/electric interactions in the mind causing funny stuff, but when you're in that space it appears that science misunderstands what's happening completely.
This is really what has surprised me the most. The uniformity of experience is striking. It seems to center around an internal mind battle between evil-good; with good eventually prevailing. The most plausible explanation to me (of course, I haven't tried it and so who cares what I think) is that this is a representation of the natural internal dynamics of the human mind represented in a post-language framework. It makes sense to me that the human mind battles with its own existence and self-worth but then eventually comes to a realization that infinite creativity/good is, in the end, attainable. I think Terrance McKenna said the essence of what you find is "love" or "the ultimate aesthetic/beauty". In the Benny Shannon book he claims it is eternal creativity. Similar things... both "art-related". Well said... I think the key from the experiences I've read is that you are in post-matter, information-based reality. Or in the words of Ab-Soul in the song "Pineal Gland" (a song about DMT): "I'm in a place where matter don't matter, just spirit molecules and geometric patterns."Several friends have done the Ayuhuasca ceremonies and they all basically fall in line with what's already been said. There doesn't seem to be any inconsistency or exception to the experience that I've encountered personally or that has been logged by others on the internet. It's a very very powerful experience not to be taken lightly.
"wherever the fuck it is that you go."
when you're in that space it appears that science misunderstands what's happening completely.
I know we're trained as Engineers and Scientists to avoid absolutes, but Love is absolutely essential to the continued existence of humanity and it's a truth that billions refuse to take seriously. Yeah, it's something you begin to experience on low doses of mushrooms and LSD. When reality starts to break down from definite forms to abstract stuff, thoughts included. In this space, thinking/thoughts aren't an action but like a reception in the same way you feel heat you "think" thoughts. I have not worked out how to explain the idea, but I'm pretty sure someone already has. I think Terrance McKenna said the essence of what you find is "love" or "the ultimate aesthetic/beauty". In the Benny Shannon book he claims it is eternal creativity. Similar things... both "art-related".
I think the key from the experiences I've read is that you are in post-matter, information-based reality. Or in the words of Ab-Soul in the song "Pineal Gland" (a song about DMT): "I'm in a place where matter don't matter, just spirit molecules and geometric patterns."
Yes, it is arguably the thing holding everything together. By far and away the most powerful emotions I've ever felt have been in deep love and while experiencing orgasm. Of course, that does make sense from an evolutionary perspective, but I'm definitely open to the possibility science has yet to fully understand a whole range of phenomenological experience. I think Alan Watts described this in a similar way, along the lines of "trying to express what cannot be expressed." In his final interview, McKenna said that the realm was "un-englishable".I know we're trained as Engineers and Scientists to avoid absolutes, but Love is absolutely essential to the continued existence of humanity and it's a truth that billions refuse to take seriously.
In this space, thinking/thoughts aren't an action but like a reception in the same way you feel heat you "think" thoughts. I have not worked out how to explain the idea, but I'm pretty sure someone already has.