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kleinbl00  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Editor's blog: I am sexist Let's talk about how, why and what I'm doing about it.

    My point is that this isn't a "blackface" example, no matter how much you are trying to make it out to be.

Ahhh, but friend: it is. That which flies in The Jazz Singer does not fly on Dancing with the Stars. In 1975, you can title a movie "Boss Nigger." in 2014 you go WHAT THE WHAT!!?!!??

    Quit gobbling up everything that has been done wrong in attempt to relate it to this. If this achivement is wrong it will be wrong on it's own standing.

1) You are not the boss of me.

2) You keep negating my examples. Other examples are necessary, grasshopper.

3) It is wrong. The controversy made The Guardian, my friend. It's not like we're exploring new ground here.

    This is in a videogame FULL of killing men in senselessly violent ways. And in an industry even more full of it.

'member that point about singling out women? Do me a solid and go back and revisit that, since it explicitly faces this argument that you've made three times.

    Have you ever PLAYED red dead redemption?

Negative, Ghost Rider. I made the conscious decision before it came out that I wasn't interested in rewarding Rock Star for incentivizing violence against women. That's the way the system works: a vendor makes a choice I don't support, so I in turn don't support the vendor.

It's interesting that you think I must experience a system I find repellant in order to argue its repellence. It speaks to a certain lack of rhetorical rigor.





bioemerl  ·  3812 days ago  ·  link  ·  

what flies in the jazz singer doesn't fly today because of reasons other than its age.

I may not be the boss of you, but your attempts to "gobble up" any and all historical wrongs does nothing to support your point.

If it's wrong on its own standings, you shouldn't have to bother with all these comparisons to unrelated materials.

"'member that point about singling out women?"

There are no examples of singling out men in red dead redemption, no. However, having quest-points that involve specifically killing men are most likely just as common as those specifically singling out women.

This isn't specifically a killing, but it took me about ten minutes to find "kick X number of men in the balls" as an achievement in Saints Row 3. I'm sure I could find male-specific things which involve death of a helpless man after enough searching.

(although, saints row was the game that had the whole "steal women from pimps" thing. Something that I'd probably agree is quite over the line. As said, there are plenty of GOOD examples of real sexism in the games industry)

Game designers don't make these things to single out women, they make them because they are funny, or because they are references to old things.

"It's interesting that you think I must experience a system I find repellant in order to argue its repellence. It speaks to a certain lack of rhetorical rigor."

I made the argument because you don't seem to have any awareness of just how normal these horrible murdering of innocent people are in games like red dead. You don't need to play the game to know that, but you would know what the game is actually like had you played it. Heck, I haven't even played it.