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Well, I really enjoyed that ecib, thank you. Great idea for a post and for a potential series of posts. While I listened to Willie and gazed at the masterpiece, it occurred to me that there seems to be more food on the table than on their plates. Also, the fellas really rocked the sandals back then.

Also, Christ is quite the celebrity in this. All the attention surrounds him and it all seems very "human" while he seems unaffected by it all. You can see the pleading, gossiping, plotting etc and then there's Christ, above it all.

Also, the vantage point of the painting is amazing. Like they are literally dining at the edge of a precipice that overlooks all of existence. Pretty amazing.

That was fun. Thanks.





ecib  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Well, I really enjoyed that ecib, thank you. Great idea for a post and for a potential series of posts.

You should follow #combopost. This is actually the second one I've done :)

ecib  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I love Willie's song with this piece on so many levels.

So many of the lyrics are hilarious/interesting/enjoyable set against the backdrop of this painting:

    Miracles appear In the strangest of places Fancy meeting you here
Perfect opening line

    Your presence is welcome With me and my friend here

Jesus's main thesis and message

    Yesterday's wine I'm yesterday's wine
(Christian transubstantiation literally holds that the wine in your cup is the blood of Jesus)

Beyond all that, it's funny to re-imagine Jesus and his apostles as just a gathering of friends at the pub, which actually humanizes them and is a completely realistic portrayal provided any of them ever actually existed. Also, Willie Nelson himself as a character has many similarities to Jesus the character both in the way he physically looks, along with his general attitude and outlook.

Lastly, the concept album Yesterday's Wine is steeped in religion if you listen to the actual songs. The theme of the 'imperfect man' communicating with God is central.

Plus it's just one of my favorite songs by Willie who is, inarguably, The Man.

Edit: Oh yeah, Jesus's first miracle was turning water into wine. How did I not remember that before posting?

b_b  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

CATHOLIC transubstantiation literally holds that the wine in your cup is the blood of Jesus.

FTFY. Us who were raised in the subtly saner Anglican church would never argue such nonsense as transubstantiation.

ecib  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I almost edited it before posting for more specificity but I didn't bother. Of course b_b has to come in and get all technical on my ass. They're still Christian though :p

b_b  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Huge jag, that b_b. I'm a non-believer anyway, so I suppose it doesn't matter to me. Being forcibly raised in what is, essentially, the Church of England (even the American iteration of it), one develops a huge superiority complex over the mainland Europe religions (especially Catholicism, even though our sect was just lifted from the Catholics to begin with). It's not my fault; it's my upbringing!

ecib  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  

    Being forcibly raised in what is, essentially, the Church of England (even the American iteration of it), one develops a huge superiority complex over the mainland Europe religions

No, no man. That's cool. You have a huge superiority complex informed by and projected towards various ethos, none of which you subscribe to. I get it :)

thenewgreen  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hilarious. Laughed so hard my coffee nearly spilled.

b_b  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I feel like finally someone understands me. This is a good day.

thenewgreen  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

B_b would never allow for someone to try and maintain that the Catholics were any less insane then they actually are. Anglicans though…

thenewgreen  ·  3568 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Growing up a catholic school kid and being a fan of Willie, none of that was lost on me. -Well done ecib. Willie is certainly the man.

I definitely laughed when I heard that first line.