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BrainBurner  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Ignore users newer than X days Part Deux: The Reckoning

I would argue it's the message we'd be sending, rather than the actual functionality, that is the problem. It just seems like a insular and over reactionary measure to ignore new users for a week. It sends the message that users who are already established are worth more than a new user. And many established users may agree with that sentiment. However, I think it's a move that will turn off the majority of people who visit. It may intrigue some, but I think overall the negative vibes will outweigh any positive benefits.

I honestly really, really do not like this measure. I fear it will hurt Hubski a lot. As Mal-2 said, new users who try to contribute will feel ignored or marginalized, and have little incentive to stay. Again, it sends the message that we are an insular and guarded community, rather than an opening and welcoming community.





kleinbl00  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, it sends the message that I am an insular and guarded asshole, rather than an opening and welcoming asshole.

If people could see my settings.

Which they can't.

This is the part I don't understand - we already have forever ignore, forever mute, and forever hush. Yet for some reason, "mute for a little while" is seen as some horrendous over-reach.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's that you want to blanket ignore people that makes it feel unwelcoming. When you individually mute or ignore someone you have at least seen them around and dislike them as an induvidual and not a group.

_refugee_  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But the counterpoint to that is the temporariness, to coin a word, of the measure. KB isn't asking for a permaban of all new users. You're comparing individual mute, a permanent action, to mass-temporary mute, a non-permanent action (as KB suggests it). It's apples and oranges in a way. The temporariness of the action mitigates its potential "unwelcoming-ness" as opposed to straight ignore, which is permanent and generally requires a lot more action on the part of the ignored to reverse.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That is a good point and I'm not against it. I could be helpful in making sure that newcomers got a friendly welcome since only those who want to read new users posts read them as well as making sure kb and others don't have to deal with new users which I'm sure is exhausting to do over and over again.

I fear that it might become the norm ignore new users though. I'm sure not everyone or even a majority would do so but it is a potential downside.

The action of making sure that you don't have to interact with new users is unwelcoming however you frame it though. It sends the message that new users are not welcome and their input not valued. That is not to say that it is automatically a bad idea, but that message is going to be there no matter how nicely you say it.

There are downsides and upsides to the idea and I'm personally conflicted about it all.

BrainBurner  ·  3816 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My point exactly.

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