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b_b  ·  3973 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Falluja’s Fall Stuns Marines Who Fought There

I have no idea about how the political situation here has affected the reality on the ground there. I think it's impossible for any of us to know. Do I think generally that Obama's wishy-washiness has led to some big clusterfucks? Yes. I just have no idea if this is one of them. Either way you're right; it's a huge lose/lose.





cgod  ·  3973 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In what ways do you think he was "wishy-washy?"

Seems to me that he gave all three of his major conflicts a pretty hefty push before he got kicked out of Iraq and decided to call it in Afghanistan. He is still aggressively pushing drone strikes, murder and surveillance in his third campaign against terrorism and decency.

JackTheBandit  ·  3973 days ago  ·  link  ·  

but thats the thing. What was there to ever WIN exactly? How do we wage "war" on a concept, an idea, like "terrorism?" I have trouble grasping the concept..

user-inactivated  ·  3973 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Only initial public opinion. Which was rapidly lost, as anyone could have predicted.

b_b  ·  3973 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes, that's why I said above that the war was fought in vain from the outset. These new developments only solidify that view.