Earlier, I thought you were a Cluster B having a temper-tantrum in the ladies room. Then you went and explained it in another Hubski thread, and I read your "On Aggression" plus the links. I'd already read Konrad's version, so I was, like, "aw, fuck." You got me. I treated you under the assumption you had a genuine nervous breakdown, call it "controlled politeness", but I flatter myself. I don't have a problem with how you do what you do. I've been reamed much harder before, and I know that I have to take it.
I also don't care how this goes from now on, and I don't care if you don't reply, even as--at the same time--I can't deny that I wish you would, because I'm writing this cuz I want to. Human weakness. Hope you don't mind a loosened tongue, though.
I think you can piss up a rope. I own the mouse in question and have bought the mice in question that monoprice sells. In my own empirical analysis, I have a 100% correlation. Me and JTHipster agreed on these terms of discussion because we both have experience with at least part of the discussion.
So you have a reading comprehension problem. I can understand. Here's the opening sentence of my post:
"Monoprice--the seller of cheap cables and accessories--might be turning into the One True Anti-Apple."
Might. It would be nice if they did. But what's wrong with Coby and GPX? Oh, I know, it doesn't hold up to your standards, even if it holds up to the standards of everyone who isn't a prima donna. But I guess I wasn't literate enough to write it in such a way that you'd understand, and it's not your fault that you took it the way you did. No problem: live and learn, here's what I meant:
"It would be nice if someone made things that satisfied tin-eared, half-blind pig fuckers like me in a way that would last longer than 12 months, without charging me for some pansy-ass quality I don't even give a damn about. It would also be nice if, after recognizing the fact that I can't tell the difference between Brand X and Angels Singing, someone was to make [THINGS] that don't fall apart after 12 months and otherwise cut their prices because they don't pretend to satisfy professional audio engineers, nor waste money on the marketing effort."
Of course I don't take this on faith. I didn't even write the goddamn post until after I personally tried their gear and then spent hours checking reviews that practically jizzed over how durable it was. That was the stuff I linked to in the earlier comment, but that you didn't bother to address, by the way.
Riddle me this - how is it that I'm not allowed to speak from my experience but you're allowed to invalidate what I have to say by asserting "I can't google it?"
Because you said this:
And no, waffling on about the declining market in mixers is not the same. If the market decides that $80 mixers are good enough and it puts your favourite vendors out of business then it sucks to be you. We do not exist to subsidize your virgin ears. If your dollar isn't enough to keep Mackie in business then maybe Mackie doesn't deserve to be in business.
Logitech's warranty is 36 months. Monoprice's is one.
I'm sorry, I didn't see a MTBF number there, only a number inflated by higher prices. Well shit, I can offer a 36 month warranty on something that costs $5 to make and sells for $100. Maybe the entire scheme is funded by gullible jackasses who think price somehow correlates to build quality.
Correlation does not imply causation
No shit. So far the only data-point I have on Monoprice mice is that they can't take 12 months in the posession of someone who exercises "coherent rage." Boy, I can take that to the bank. Maybe I'm looking to save $86 on a mouse that I won't attempt to shove up my own ass.
I haven't "heard a story that" monoprice's electronics are shit. I have evaluated monoprice's electronics to be shit through my own professional experience as a former audiovisual consultant that helped develop products for Rane, Mackie, Biamp, Symetrix, SLS, DBX and others.
Oh, so you're also a blowhard.
Keep lecturing, shithead.
Kettle, meet pot.
So you buy Bose and Monoprice and consider yourself an expert?
Yes, because I'm an expert in what works for me. My Triports are still working. I have also owned Sony, Shure, Sennheiser, and a dozen other brands I forgot how to spell. I checked forums, I talked to friends, I tried them all, compared side-by-side, and couldn't tell the difference. After a while I came to realize that my ears aren't carved out of gold and that I'll give a different and conflicting answer to the Pepsi Challenge every goddamn time I take it. I got pissed off at both the idea that I'm supposed to want something I can't discern, and the idea that I have to pay for it.
You are completely fucking insane.
Which was in response to "quality has been eliminated as a factor."
So riddle me this, Spiderman, what if build quality was eliminated as a factor? I've used mice cheaper than Monoprice's for years because I don't yank the shit out of them. Maybe Logitech has cornered the market for controlled rage boys, but I clearly haven't got your problem.
You've done exactly jack shit to back this up but you feel A-OK lecturing me for using personal experience in an argument with someone else.
Grow up. I'm talking down to you because you did behave like a retarded fourteen-year-old who didn't read the fucking OC and decided to spin-off on the only subset you knew anything about. Some data that was. Oh gosh, I shoudln't buy their mice because I don't understand their economics, so sez a git who hasn't even sampled a whole percent of their range.
Of course, I could be wrong, but now that I know your schtick, it's been fun to clash horns. Nothing personal.