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rozap  ·  4371 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A Mother's 18-Point iPhone Contract to Her Son

Parents are too afraid to let their kids fuck up. I see helicopter parents like this all the time, and I think it has a profoundly negative effect on the kids. Of my friends from high school, the ones with overbearing parents just went crazy after high school. They ended up dropping out of college or having some sort of significant existential crisis, as they didn't really know how to deal with life in an independent manner. The best way to learn is to make mistakes. There's also no better time to make mistakes than when you're a kid, because you just don't have that many responsibilities...and the only real ramification is that you might get a stern talking to from your parents or get grounded. But instead parents are focuses on preventing any mistakes in the first place, which stifles any growing up that is supposed to happen.





b_b  ·  4371 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Agreed. The main things kids should learn is respect for others, don't drink or text and drive, and that your actions have consequences. Other than that, what's the point of being a tyrant?

user-inactivated  ·  4371 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, I see where you're coming from (and it's true that the kids who go crazy in high school get it together for college -- I know; I'm one of them). But it's important to remember that we're dealing with a 13-year-old kid who probably doesn't need a phone anyway, and also that it's a goddamn privilege.

You can make the argument that having them sign a contract is just being pragmatic and imparting a life lesson of another sort: when you live independently, you damn well better be ready to honor contracts to landlords, bursars, the telephone company and everything in between.

rozap  ·  4371 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I would argue that a 13 year old is old enough to know right from wrong. And you're right he probably doesn't need a phone, much less an iPhone, so either 1) Don't give him such a privilege or 2) Trust his judgement. Meddling about and choosing something between 1 and 2 is not healthy.

user-inactivated  ·  4370 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, I think the middle ground between 1 and 2 is getting a nonsmart phone that serves the purpose of keeping track of him but isn't such a large distraction.