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StephenBuckley  ·  3178 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Does hubski have general expectations for its users? If so, what are they?  ·  

In general, the expectations seem to be loose, which makes sense. However, are some things I've noticed from looking around and commenting:

1) If your comment is just a joke or an agreement, people won't like it. There's a guideline for group comedy that you shouldn't just agree, you should "Yes, and..." meaning to agree and contribute. While agreement isn't (always) mandatory, agree and enhance seem to be the norm. 2) Sources. Sources, sources and more sources. People love sources! Even when they don't read them! 3) Honestly, when talking to mk about features, keep in mind that he made all of this possible. And maybe thenewgreen. I'm not sure about that one, that's just context clues. It sounds like I'm saying they're fragile, but really I'm saying they deserve all of the respect you can muster. Unless you're syncretic or kleinbl00 or Saydrah or something, because all those guys seem to have a billion ideas for the site and some kinda understanding among each other. Maybe this isn't a rule, but still, I think respect in general should be on this list and if you can't do it for everyone, do it for mk. 4) Not everyone is as open-minded as we all pretend. Sometimes you'll run into someone where both you and they are not going to yield on the issue at hand. At that point, it's probably better to walk away, ignore, and move on. 5) To get a great feel about what's promoted and what's looked down on, try checking the "badges" link under the "discover" section. Or look at "recently badged/ most badged" to find users who have been/are routinely rewarded for outstanding badges. (This sounds super braggy, since I am the most recently badged person, but it really can give you a feel for the sight.) 6) We don't seem to have a list of "don'ts" but on that list we don't have is definitely beating women. I'm glad about that, and I think the overwhelming majority of the users I've seen/interact with would be deeply unhappy to see anything headed in that direction.

Cons: 1) Watch out for religion. 2) Sometimes people are jerks! 3) Some people are the smartest people they've ever met. Be careful! You might be one of these as well! I might be one of these as well (in that I act like a jerk sometimes).

Having said that stuff, I think that kleinbl00 has made this point before, but fuck what other people want. Post what you find interesting/important. Speak your mind to anyone who speaks otherwise, however you feel is appropriate. That's the only way to find out if this is the community for you. If you're not enjoying it, leave! It's a website, not a job.

lil  ·  3177 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Great answer Stephen!! I love your reference to improv - "yes and" So YES "Watch out for religion" AND I loved theadvancedapes recent post on what to say on the responsibility of atheists to explain science better.

joelg236  ·  3178 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is a really cool community. After using the site for literally less than a few days, I already know most of the people you mentioned in your post.

    1) Watch out for religion.
What do you mean by this? From everything I've gathered, it seems as though most users have a pretty direct relationship with reddit. If that is the case, religion (and lack thereof) is a highly discussed topic there for a lot of people. Do you mean it is taboo here, or something else entirely?


    3) Some people are the smartest people they've ever met. Be careful! You might be one of these as well! I might be one of these as well (in that I act like a jerk sometimes).
That's why I follow you :)
user-inactivated  ·  3178 days ago  ·  link  ·  

By "watch out for religion," he means that religion is always a contentious topic and should be treated with care and respect if you don't know the person you're talking to quite well, in order to cause as little offense as possible.

As a community we're generally unoffensive. It's pretty great.

StephenBuckley  ·  3177 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is much better than what I actually meant. What I actually meant was other people are super dumb about religion and I'm the rightest of all of us!

But what flagamuffin said was good, too, and is a much better thing to say about religion.

user-inactivated  ·  3177 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Cons 4) Putting words in peoples' mouths.

But hey.

StephenBuckley  ·  3177 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The thing about assuming is that even if it makes asses of us, we have to do to it to communicate effectively. Also I was just joking around- you nailed what I meant by be careful about religion, and you phrased it way better.

joelg236  ·  3177 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Makes sense. I like to think of myself as generally unnoffensive.

syncretic  ·  3177 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    all those guys seem to have a billion ideas for the site and some kinda understanding among each other.

Hubski is just similar enough to reddit that it is very attractive to users who have been displeased with the gradual decline of the site for some time now. As the numbers grow the problem is only getting worse. Those of us who recognize the problems in reddit look at hubski and don't see many of those problems. We see a polite, close-knit community, much like how reddit used to be at one point, but without any of the inherent design flaws and bad policy decisions that have plagued reddit for several years.

I'm happy to do whatever I can to contribute.