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kleinbl00  ·  270 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: OpenAI's Sora

    I'm usually not on the side of techbros, but I do think LLMs and image/video stuff is some of the most disruptive technology to come along in about a decade, maybe more.

True or false: image creation is an area in which you have practice and expertise.

    But to be fair, I dunno why deepfakes haven't been more impactful, it's kind of a similar vein.

See, you're going "everyone is an idiot but me." Stop that. It's because if you want the fake to work it has to be carefully crafted to not stretch credulity. "Huh, look at all the Taylor Swift nudes! I wonder if any of them are real!" -no one

    Maybe the most exciting thing is the possibility that this will eventually destroy the internet by eventually feeding its outputs back into inputs until the web fractalizes into nesting outrage bubbles interspersed with fake cute animal .gifs.

Here's my gremlin opinion:

Microsoft funds OpenAI because they KNOW it's poisoning Google.

Example: We've been watching Hotel Hell with dinner. One of the games we play is "what happened after Gordon left." This involves a web search - and it's a perfect web search for AI. It's content nobody really cares about, driven by a large mass media exposure with a long tail (the episodes aired in 2012). Now - check this out.

That's an AI-generated website. It's also the top hit for something on Hotel Hell. If you dig into any of the blogs dedicated to "where are they now" reality TV updates you learn the place closed in 2020. If you look on Trip Advisor, you see that the last review was in 2020. But if you look on Facebook, Yelp, Kayak or anywhere else, there's a link farmer with a phone number and an email address who totally doesn't have a hotel but will absolutely take your credit card number! Bing's results aren't much better, but then, Microsoft doesn't make their money from search and never will so fuck search.

    Since I'm self-righteous, I'd like to think one of the last things it'll come for is physics and math.

LLMs have no deep understanding, so they'll never come for anything that requires deep understanding. Shit, LLMs have no understanding. How many legs does an ant have? how many pawns on a chess board? These are the constraints that hobble an LLM, they don't make them better, so they're never going to grok that shit. If you need something that knows how many fingers hands should have, you need something other than an LLM.





am_Unition  ·  267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    True or false: image creation is an area in which you have practice and expertise.

Kind of. Learned Photoshop in high school, messed with Illustrator recently. I script command line image manipulation (ImageMagick) and video (ffmpeg). I'm only artsy enough to upset my Christian mother sometimes. I think you're asking about that, specifically, and no, I'm not the best painter, sculptor, drawer, logo-designer, or whatever. Sora's doing wayyyyyy better than me.

    See, you're going "everyone is an idiot but me."

Kinda, but I'm an idiot too. Just hopefully not about this. You've posted stuff yourself that shows how quick so many people are to be fooled by some AI images. People are busy. They're in a hurry.

    Microsoft funds OpenAI because they KNOW it's poisoning Google.

Oh this is absolutely true.

    We've been watching Hotel Hell with dinner. One of the games we play is "what happened after Gordon left."

My wife and I have literally done this for years. And Kitchen Nightmares, too.

The website scam is pretty solid, there's gonna be a lot of that. It's already illegal, I'm sure, and companies should get in big trouble if their LLM is an accessory to fraud. The litigation surrounding stuff that's in a more morally gray area will be thrilling, I'm sure. One way or another.

    LLMs have no understanding.

I understand. Ha no, but it's kinda the ol' "magic is science we don't understand yet" thing. If it's passing the Turing test, it will feel intelligent. Indistinguishable, most of the time. It's easier and more productive to talk to online than at least half of America. And you can just photoshop out the extra digits and save yourself potentially hours upon hours of time without having to synthesize too much, my dude.

Again, yeah, legal stuff's gotta get sorted, but this tech is mos def my bet for most disruptive in this generation. Like a 15-year span. It'll be: cell phones -> internet -> social media -> LLMs. Wish I could tell you what I thought was next. Would if I could.

kleinbl00  ·  267 days ago  ·  link  ·  

FUN FACT: The Turing test was about "can you tell if I'm gay" not "can you tell if I'm a robot."

It's like that goddamn Potter Stewart quote - you throw it in my face it reveals that you've found a platitude to model your understanding on, not a theory.