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b_b  ·  1103 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: HOW THE BOBOS BROKE AMERICA

I don't feel guilty; I feel conflicted. Big difference. I'd like to think that I can teach my kids to just be good people and pursue that which interests them intellectually and the rest will fall into place. But I'm just unsure that that's a viable path anymore. That's entirely due to our continual obsession with "fixing" education.

As a teenager I worked all the hours at a restaurant that my boss would let me work, which put me over the legal limit almost every week. That's a type of education, but it's not the type of education that counts for anything that will get you into college, but it's proved invaluable to me personally. I don't want my kids doing 3 hours of homework a night or whatever. I want them out learning how to be humans. But the competitive landscape of education today may make that infeasible. And maybe that's fine. Times change. But it sure doesn't seem like young people are any happier these days.





kleinbl00  ·  1103 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You're thinking about it totally wrong. 'sokay. The whole system has lied to you your whole life and it's like finding out there's no Santa.

American education as you know it was a capital-S Socialist play. Big dumb strikes? Haymarket bombings? All a part of the resources of the few belonging to the many. American education same-same.

As we all know, however, socialism is the devil and must be defeated at all costs, even if you have to twist yourself into a knot defending Somalia so that Saint Rand will smile on you from the hypercapitalist afterlife. So we have to pretend that school schedules aren't arranged after the harvest and standardized testing isn't about crushing minorities and child nutrition didn't used to belong to the Department of Defense. No, no - opportunity belongs to the bold, not the landed.

Of COURSE kindergarteners are getting homework! That way there's something to grade, so we can look at their performance and run their teachers through an algorithm that we can use to punish them if they look at us sideways. Those same butt-hurt conservatives talking about "bobos" don't have to deal with any of this of course 'cuz they put their kids in private schools or defiantly home-school them because of liberty or freedom or some shit. But they can for sure point out at how educational performance is dropping, just look at the graphs. Clearly the system has failed and it's undoubtedly because of those elites since Obama invented Common Core.

We aren't obsessed with "fixing" education we're obsessed better performance without paying for it. Point on the graph where technology upgrades come from. Then tell me how this all comes down to the "bobos."

I got a job after school at a toy store when I was in 4th grade. Totally illegal; boss still deducted FICA. There was not a time after the age of 10 in which I was not working double-digit hours a week out of the house. That's not what this is about, though:

    I want them out learning how to be humans.

My kid goes to an IB nonprofit. Critical Race Theory? she haz it. I'm spending a grand a month for the express purpose of giving her a leg up on her peers, who are being warehoused for free so that they learn how to be warehoused as adults. Can I fix the educational system? Not from here I can't.

But I also can't pretend that this is the fault of a kid on the wharf saying "inductive reasoning" instead of these choads.

lolbrooks' whole thing is "they can't be elites if they have poor taste" which is about as Thurston Howell III a mentality as I can come up with.

b_b  ·  1103 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    We aren't obsessed with "fixing" education we're obsessed better performance without paying for it.

Yeah, sure, totally agree, but this is where the conservatives have been very successful at making education a wedge for the left. At least here in Michigan (which I assume is the standard play everywhere) the GOP have found very willing collaborators in the inner city in their mission to destroy the public school system. Left and Right come together and use the abject shittiness that is the Detroit school system to say, "public schools don't work." And the left is so gullible and guileless that they just go along for fear of being labeled racists for saying, "Maybe what works in Detroit isn't what's going to work literally everywhere else." So they fuck up everybody in an attempt to seem not racist and all the while the GOP is laughing their way to a privatized system, since fuck it, I don't care how bad the schools suck even in this rich white suburb, because I wouldn't dream of sending my kid there...I just want my voucher so fuck you even more.

kleinbl00  ·  1103 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    And the left is so gullible and guileless that they just go along for fear of being labeled racists for saying, "Maybe what works in Detroit isn't what's going to work literally everywhere else."

LOL you're talking to someone who literally helped mix Waiting for Superman.

That said, NONE of this lands at the feet of people who went to college.

b_b  ·  1103 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, the film was lauded for its production value, so I guess that's one great thing about it!