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OftenBen  ·  1250 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: ACB is ALREADY enforcing christian morality over the rest of us.

The dialog doesn't advance.

Christians spread plague. They are seeking legal protections to do so before the Supreme Court.

My fellows who work in Healthcare suffer because of a religion that they don't practice.

My fellow disabled people die because of a religion that they don't practice.

And both sides are the same. Manslaughter on one hand, mean names on the other.





kleinbl00  ·  1250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

What dialogue are we talkin' about, buddy? Because as I said before, you seem to ... need something from these discussions but you don't seem to be presenting them in a way where you get anything but shut out. I hope you can see that this is a genuine attempt to shape this conversation into a dialog that does advance but that requires participation on both sides.

OftenBen  ·  1250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Christians - 'We seek the ability and legal protections to freely spread plague and commit manslaughter, endangering the sick, the poor, the elderly, the very young, and everyone who works in healthcare. AND, if so much as a peep of complaint is raised to the structural violence we seek to perpetrate that the reaches LITERALLY into the Supreme Court, the leadership of both houses of Congress and the white house, we will raise accusations of anti-religious bigotry.

Me - 'Please wash your hands, wear a mask and practice social distancing to the best of your ability to do so. Please value the lives and wellbeing of others or at least act as if you do.

You - 'If you just ignored the christians they will go away.'

kleinbl00  ·  1250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, dude. Not even. Nobody here is at "if you just ignored the christians they will go away."

You clearly have a passion for preventing the greatest harms perpetrated in the name of religion. I think everyone here can get behind that. Things run aground when you say religion only exists to perpetrate great harm. 'cuz then we point out that no, that assertion is not supported by evidence, we recognize great harm and condemn it is it possible for you to have a discussion about even, oh, the degree of harm?

'cuz you mostly seem to work yourself up. And that's not good for you. You're a walking F7U12 cartoon. I'm just trying to point out that there are humans around you who would love to have this conversation IF you can find a way to avoid "jesus therefore apocalypse"-style rhetoric.

OftenBen  ·  1250 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Whatever you say.