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dshmract  ·  1982 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How Zoning Laws Are Holding Back America's Cities

If you want a good response you should say something other than nonsense. How am I supposed to talk about something with someone who doesn't think housing is tied to economics? If you deny zoning laws have had a significant effect on san francisco housing how are we supposed to talk about it?

All of your arguments rely on ad hominem arguments and it's admittedly kind of frustrating to have someone acting so disingenuously over and over again





ThurberMingus  ·  1981 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm not going to dig into your zoning argument.

The main point I'm making is to pay attention to how self-moderating works on here. Users follow/filter/mute/block/etc other users. If someone doesn't want to hear what you say, they don't have to.

The side point was something about internet arguments but I lost that train of thought.

kingmudsy  ·  1982 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey man, just an observer to this thread - I don't know much about zoning, and I don't have a dog in this fight for the most part.

I don't think klein was saying that housing isn't tied to economics, and I'm hoping you can explain how you came to that conclusion. I also don't think anyone mentioned San Francisco.

    All of your arguments rely on ad hominem arguments

I'll admit that kleinbl00 can sometimes come across a bit condescending. Their comment is dismissive towards you, and I understand why you feel slighted...But you haven't been super welcoming, either. You two have been insulting each other.

They were right to be frustrated by your false-equivalency earlier. Valid arguments come from all sides, but truth != validity and claims need to be evaluated in context of an organization's goals. I think it's fair to assume that the Koch brothers have biased the video. Even if you disagree, it merits discussion past the "So you disagree with EVERYTHING the Koch Bros think?" arguments you've been putting forth.