What in the Craig T. Fuck? I say that because I watch amateur YouTube documentaries about serial killers for fun and watched some Elliott Rodgers videos and read his manifesto at some point after the shooting. I'd shoot his fucking mother in 1978 if I knew he'd be a hero and had a time machine. https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o7aD4h0wC20QBySuA/giphy.gif Bear with me. I have no thesis and my brain is sorta like a wikipedia made of sentence fragments that can still send you down a rabbit hole from Spider-Man to Johannes Gutenberg in two degrees of separation so this may become a rambling mess. Maybe it'll average out to coherence. I'm incredibly liberal and consider myself an LGBT ally and a feminist. The latter being somewhere between radioactive and a terrorist organization right now for morons. And as a man (ignoring a buncha shit from squawking online morons) is somehwat problematic because, well, I'm not a woman so I have a limited voice in the thing and I feel a little hypocritical. Women wanted to vote and society was like, "Fine ladies, just don't vote for the handsome one. HAHA." Little later society is like, "Well, I suppose you pretty little things can get an easy little job if it makes you feel good. <...you might get raped at work... also that's your fault for wearing lipstick and heels...>" Stupid oversimplifications done, and we're at a point where the conversation can't seem to go anywhere but to the accusatorial in my opinion. Which is why I feel like a hypocrite. I'm not perfect and I'm a man and in order to be supportive I can really only be empathetic which means I have to reflect and the shitty things I've done. None ya damn business honestly, I gotta live with it, but the worst part for me is that as awful as I feel anything I've ever done to a woman is, I know what I've done that I deeply regret is not so bad that it wouldn't bother basically 100% of men who aren't interested in listening and being reflective, self-critical and introspective. The conversation is maybe like, "Knock this shit off!," with the reply of, "Shut up cunts, I'm a good guy and I didn't do anything." Not exactly but I don't know that there is a collective conversation to be simplified for rhetorical purposes for a variety of reasons. We are at the very hard part of change if you ask me where the institutionally powerful are starting to feel heat that can't be ignored or tossed off with meager effort. So you get the sober, benign-seeming academic Jordan Peterson saying essentially that, well, I don't know. Look him up. I think he's awful and I cribbed the thing about lipstick from him. You also get Richard Spencer who is a Nazi. Not quite apropos of nothing, but my recent roommate was "opening up" about how bad it felt that his recent ex girlfriend wouldn't have sex with him sometimes when he was in the mood and that was fucked up "because guys always wanna fuck." And I just gotta sit there, not look at him and be like, "Uh yeah. Life's rough." I've been around a bunch of bros for about a year and he's comparatively not so bad to the worst I've seen and heard. FFS. I feel that current feminists, cultural progressives, people who I generally agree with have something of a messaging or branding problem. Compared to some alt-right leaked strategy they're almost a bunch of five year olds running around with scissors or a class lecture with forty professors speaking at once. Depending on my mood. My oldest reddit account is over ten years old. I was on /b/ until I (quickly) got bored. No word is off limits in my vocabulary, I'm abrasive and down-right rude in person sometimes and I do not give any shit's about offending anyone and if I massaged and edited that some it'd be safe to assume I may be an MRA or something awful (LOL, I'm so clever). Like, Lena Dunham (who I do enjoy with caveats but needs to STFU sometimes) is arguably one of the most prominent, if not vocal, feminist voices you may have a problem. Gloria Allred she is not. (I'm losing steam, here. Sorry.) But fuck, fight about what you care about like you give a shit and don't worry about triggering someone to go off to the safe space. We need more vocal, tough ladies like _refugee_ and maybe Emma Gonzales than Dunham's faux intellectualism and what I hear about is going on on campuses. Fairly or unfairly it's based on something. I don't know because I'm 35 but umm, fuck your safe space. I'm reading this: And drinking the Kool Aid. Hari seems to have a point that a lot of our problems are due to a lack of meaningful connection. We're clever apes who figured out how to work together to help each other to survive which led to civilizations which led to simulations of civilizations where like minded toxic people can use that instinct to become worse. Isolation is absolutely a huge problem. Not because some losers can't sack the fuck up and realize they are the reasons that they can't get a girlfriend and are not entitled to a quick fuck. (Well, maybe in the instance of the van attack it is.) We are collectively doing nothing to combat isolation and are encouraging it with any number of reasons ranging from the grinding and meaningless tedium of the service economy to placing the value of a matching Askvoll chest over meaningful connections that I'd wager have always been rare and are now down to an average of 0. I tap out. I gotta go watch cats fall off counters on Youtube or something.
Thank you so much for linking that Johann Hari book. I know a lot of scientists have disagreed with some of the assertions he makes, but it was HUGELY beneficial to me in terms of me getting out of a severe mental rut. I read it back in January and made the switch from "my brain is fundamentally broken and there's nothing I can do" to "hey, maybe part of my misery might be caused by environmental factors I have the power to change". I looked around and whoop-dee-doo, I saw I had postponed major life decisions and wasn't happy where I was at. It gave me the power and confidence to make changes, which was priceless. A lot of Incels could benefit from that perspective. Another thing about deprogramming cults, I remember speaking to a lady at a local non-profit in my city that works with homeless people, and found that a lot of homeless people who try to get a job, etc. feel a lot of social pressure to stay homeless as a lot of their friends are too. Their friends feel they are betraying them by getting out of that position. It's not totally equivalent, but it takes a lot of strength to turn your back on your community if you don't already have enough inner strength. Definitely Incels are reinforcing each other's negativity. They don't want their members to have sex. And when all you know is that hate it can be really difficult to find the self-confidence to empower yourself and get out. The internet empowers minorities, including the ones that are self-destructive. Hopefully young kids can see the internet backlash however and avoid that shit like the plague.
I'm about half finished with the book. I am most definitely manic depressive so I am wondering what his opinion on that is. There's no harm in considering anything he says regarding depression as long as you don't suddenly discontinue your medicine or something. A lot of his points aren't really hard to swallow or even all that novel honestly on their surface and, other than his opinion on anti depressants, I don't know why anyone would not want to consider them in a holistic approach to treatment. Talk therapy is usually advised in conjunction with meds by anyone who knows how to prescribe what they're prescribing. Psychology is the economics of medicine. "It's science. Trust us. We just deal in very unpredictable territory so we're attempting the impossible."
a sober guy once told me not to accidentally get hooked on heroin since i was such a rebel after i turned him down for (as i realized later) actually the third time (across various dating sites) in like 3 years. i made the mistake of trying to explain to him that i, as a person who definitely was drinking at the time of the message and still occasionally drinks now, and indulges in thc, felt i had a significantly different enough lifestyle from his that we didn't seem compatible. honestly he had been hooked on heroin and has been clean for years now and does bodybuilding and until that part of the conversation i had really kind of admired him for what he'd done but i know me and i know i want a partner who i can drink a bottle of wine with sometimes. or whatever. and i know i'd feel weird drinking around someone who didn't, which means in the long run i'd start to resent him for doing nothing. because it would be in my head -- but the point is that i today right now know what's in my head. and how my head works. and how my head would feel dating someone who is 100% sober. my head would feel uncomfortable. so : i know we wouldn't work out. and i admired him, so i didn't want to diss him. and then he basically said since he was such a polar opposite to my lifestyle i had just better be careful and blah blah and heroin and i was like wow you really said that man the end well actually i agnrily tweeted about it without naming names and posted some name-redacted screenshots to my ig story but then after that i just blocked him and that was it the true end. that's life, it can be boring.
Sounds like he's really is into 12 Step. -Bill Hicks on the subject of nonsmokers Similar principle played out in reality with the various anonymouses. They average out to insufferable but you find a cool member every now and thenObnoxious , self-righteous, whining little fucks. My biggest fear is that if I quit smoking, I'll become one of you.