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comment by FirebrandRoaring

    There could have been a "Marshall Plan II" that might have achieved a lasting democracy in Russia.

Are you implying the state of democracy in Russia to be dependent on its economic prosperity or even foreign aid?




kleinbl00  ·  285 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, I'm implying that there was a sensitive period in Russia's history where it could have been influenced for the better, and it was influenced for the worse.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  285 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Influenced how? How would monetary influx help Russia become more democratic?

kleinbl00  ·  285 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I didn't say "monetary influx." There was plenty of money flying at Russia, it was just flying at things Western businesses thought could make them money. Things did not go well.

If the West-East postwar conversation and focus had been people to people, instead of CEO-to-nomenklatura, the people on both sides would have done better. lend/lease. Small business. Security for dissidents. All these "Western" values we've always lorded over everyone else - we did nothing to help them thrive in the ashes of the USSR. What we did was try to make a buck. Results went as expected.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  285 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hm. Any reading on it that you could recommend?

kleinbl00  ·  284 days ago  ·  link  ·  

My most recent read on the rise of Putin and the economic conditions from whence he sprang is Masha Gessen's The Man Without a Face. I'm also a big fan of Tony Judt's Postwar, although Russia is slightly peripheral.

FirebrandRoaring  ·  284 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Cheers. Saved.