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9bit  ·  584 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: George Packer: What Ta-Nehisi Coates Gets Wrong About American Politics

Pablo about Kendrick Lamar, who spoke about race the way he liked it (ie pandering to the whites): you, an African, are missing the point about what he's saying! You're wrong about it!

Pablo about Coates, who speaks about race in a way be doesn't like: sarcastically calls him brave, feels like he's being too aggressive, accusatory, and naive.

Someone in the army complaining about aggression


But don't mind me, just watching this bullshit website struggle to walk its way through racial conversations in a room without a single minority. It's hilarious that this is what I see whenever I pull it up buuuuut

nowaypablo  ·  584 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, hold on, my comment is clearly stating how I viewed what I saw, I didn't extrapolate any sort of objective fact or even make any claims about it. The guy showed up and made what could've been a really, really interesting talk into a weird guilt trip thing. That's how it went, I wish it didn't go that way too.

2: I really hope you don't think I compare what Kendrick Lamar says to what Ta-Nehisi Coates says, in any facet.

Also on that: Are you saying I once told you that you as a black guy are wrong about something Kendrick said? If I disagreed with you about something he said, why would that have anything to do with you being a black guy? Also, if me being white and you being black does mean we feel that Kendrick is saying entirely different things--which it sometimes does-- who the fuck cares?

Anyway that's a pretty weird argument to go for if you're trying to make me out to be a hypocrite. Which, by the way, I'm totally fine with you trying to do. I think what you're saying that I said about Kendrick might be either misunderstood on your part or poorly communicated on mine.

    Someone in the army complaining about aggression

This is a pretty dumb thing to say.

    Racial conversations in a room without a single minority

Again, I really don't think being a minority gives someone authority in such a way that they have to be present for someone who is not that same minority to discuss race.


I read the article, connected it to my own experiences, and threw up something I observed, when I met the guy the article is about-- because it affirms what the author said. I don't know why you responded this way to my comment.

And by the way, I wasn't being sarcastic, like at all. I really would like to know why Coates is considered so influential, and I do think what he did could be considered brave because there was like 2 weeks of heated backlash from all the low-key white supremacists at my school because we know what his talk was going to be about. And he probably knew there would be, and decided to come here. And also he fucking flopped his talk and didn't really help anyone's case, much to my disappointment.