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am_Unition  ·  753 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The New York Times’ Coal Miner Interview Is Why We Won’t Stop Climate Change

When every one of those 77,000 voted for you, it doesn't matter how small of a demographic it is, nationally. You pander. Then, if you're DJ Trump, you spin it at 212 BPM back around (throw in other obscene numbers for obfuscation) to make out like we are a nation comprised of mostly coal workers. Maybe exclusively coal workers. We need more women in Big Coal! (GODDAMNIT it is so easy to get derailed trying to outdo reality)

It doesn't matter that most of the people in the cities know that losses in coal industry jobs have nothing to do with who's in the presidency. We have failed at communicating to them what the root of the problem is. Whether or not they are capable or willing to comprehend the blend of basic economics and environmental science required to grasp the concept is another debate.

During one of the seventy-some-odd rants my poor girlfriend has had to endure within the last couple months or so, I've definitely said "Fuck you, rural America, you fucking morons." And I do kinda regret it. Kinda. I'm going to try to work on my end of things, at least.

I look around, inside of my little bubble, and everybody's certainly still pushing upwards, but they're not pushing outwards. Most of them have forgotten how to talk to normies. I'm not the greatest, either. Our "work" generally benefits humanity, not the United States. Over 75% of our "workers" weren't born in the United States. So I think there's no denying that the larger cities of the world have already formed a global network of dependencies, and rural America has been left behind. The countryside is beautiful, and I miss it, but there's generally no one doing any serious thinking out there, and if there is, they're taking good ideas back into the big cities, because that's the only place they can cash them in anyway. What should we do? Can't make anyone move out of bumfuck nowhere. I guess we're starving them out? Automation already wrecked those guys, and the cities are next. Personally, I think the huge administrative structures that we've built, e.g. at universities, are going to fail rather spectacularly. Software for filing business expenses, payroll distributions, calendar and scheduling applications, online travel booking, etc. is probably culprit to some of Graeber's "bullshit jobs". I can't imagine what's next (besides driverless). Crypto could threaten big banking. Oh man, that's gonna get fucked.

Things are kinda tense in academia right now, btw. Someone prominent in the department had someone else forward a "see you at the march for science" to everyone. I liked that a lot.

Oh, and... Hubski has been talking about the book "Seeing Like a State". One of the things it rags on is unrestrained scientific dependency. If anyone could relay the central tenets of that criticism, I would appreciate it. flagamuffin, and there was someone else too, in the comments of an entirely separate post, but I lost it.

flagamuffin  ·  753 days ago  ·  link  ·  

tenet: evolved, adapted behaviors are likely to be successful in non-obvious ways, which The State repeatedly discovered to its dismay when it steamrolled in with High Modernism thinking it could Fix Everything, and failed (in the examples given by the author)

colonialism in africa/india, centrally-planned cities like brasilia, stupid tree-planting patterns in siberia, etc