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comment by ThurberMingus

What is globalism anyway? Most of the time it sounds like people mean "anything intentional I think is bad."

alpha0  ·  1223 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You can read about it from the horse's mouth. (And I do not wish to make a habit of contradicting kleinb100, but it is in fact called Globalism by its propents. Neo-Liberalism is the 'theoretical' framework that supports the political front of Globalists.)


There are three general fronts opposing globalism: conservative, theoretical, and conspirational.

The conservative group -- whether cultural or political -- is opposed by the self evident fact that globalism will by necessity entail the erosion of national integrity (nationalism here meaing in essence that your life for better or worse is mainly impacted by your own nation's features, culture, politics, trends, etc., which in a democratic nation means you have some say in it).

The theoretical group objects to the neo-liberal (economic) and neo-con (martial) framework, by objecting to the reduction of all politics to mere economics ("end of history"); and the wars necessitated by the push to 'remove' (regime change) nations that stand in the way per the neo-con policy.

The conspirationist share some (or all, depending on the tin foil envelope) of above, but go further in asserting that globalism is not motivated by the overt neo-liberal ideology but is in fact a nefarious plan to affect a gray universal culture and entirely strip the mass of humanity of our cultural and political will, and reduce us to "slaves" in the grand global plantation of a few wealthy families that subverted Europe starting in 16th century. Typically, but not necessarily, this gets reduced to (or slandered as per your pov) as anti-semitism given that the said families are banking families of Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.

So you will find that conservative and conspirational opposition are highly sensitive to efforts to dismantle standing cultural institutions such as religion, family, sexual norms, etc. They view it -- and this is actually fairly supported by human history -- as a 'device' to reduce the individual into a highly programmable 'unit' in the larger socio-economic regime. Recent examples that these two fronts cite are the collectivist tyrannies of Soviet Union and Maoist China.

The theoretical front is keenly sensitive to the transfer of political power to trans-national corporations (institutionalized in secret treaties such as TPP).

My personal view is that some form of united Humanity is certainly inevitable short of some natural disaster or global conflict that would dismantle the current civiliation and sends us back to caves and the proverbial drawing board.

But I equally believe that the current self-elected global elite are entirely unsuited -- in terms of moral, intellectual, and administrative deficits -- to lead an unwilling (and I should add, not yet ready) humanity to such a union at this point in time.

Anyway, that is my 2cents and hope it is informative.

kleinbl00  ·  1224 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Fans of globalism often refer to it as neoliberalism.

Detractors of neoliberalism often refer to it as globalism.

One man's inheritance tax is another man's death tax.

ThurberMingus  ·  1223 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well from skimming Wikipedia they both seem to have multiple definitions depending on who is using the terms.

user-inactivated  ·  1224 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Remember when you were in history class and you'd read about this empire or that, expanding as far as possible? Romans, Persians, Chinese, British, French, etc.? They did it so they could have as many resources under their control as possible, for the purpose of making money, keeping trade fluid, and so on. What's been slowly learned over time though is that keeping massive empires is hard, and literally bloody, work and you tend to piss people off in the process.

Globalization/globalism is embracing ideology around trade that allows both companies and governments to make money and keep trade fluid, without resorting to trying to conquer other people through military means. It's much easier, much less bloody, and you're nowhere near as likely to be viewed as "the bad guy" by near as many people. Are there still shitty things going on by shady people? Yes. Is there still room for improvement? Fuck yes. It's still better than empire building though.

kleinbl00  ·  1224 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's not globalism, that's imperialism.

Globalism is the philosophy that international networks take precedence over local networks, and international players take precedence over local players for purposes of efficiency and benefit worldwide.

user-inactivated  ·  1224 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hmm. Like politics and governance, I feel like globalism and imperialism are tightly intertwined. Maybe that's why I got the two confused.

kleinbl00  ·  1224 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Imperialism benefits the British Empire.

Globalism benefits the British East India Trading Company.

Imperialism benefits Texas.

Globalism benefits Texas Instruments.

Imperialism benefits John Doe at the expense of Jian Do.

Globalism benefits John Deere at the expense of John Doe and Jian Do.