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coffeesp00ns  ·  2863 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: The new debt slaves

I think, like you, i was reacting to a small part of another person's post.

namely, this part.

    Psh. "Create jobs". Gimme a damn break. People just need to get to work.

the idea that people "just need to get to work" sort of rubs me the wrong way, is all, because as I said, I know lots of people who work hard and don't make much. If getting to work and working hard were all that were needed to be financially successful, migrant workers would be rich as fuck.

There's more to it, it's complicated. Hence why i mentally wrapped it in with my previous comment. I... wasn't exactly clear.





goobster  ·  2863 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It rubbed me the wrong way too, when I was unemployed for a long time.

But only at the end of my Unemployment Checks did I walk into a catering company and put in a job application for a delivery driver, or apply to a trade school, or talk to a friend who owns a coffee shop about going to work for her.

There were plenty of jobs I could have gotten and earned a living at. I was just too stuck-up and self-important to do them.

This is not true of everyone, I know. Some people are just at the bottom of the skills barrel, or are simply having a rough time finding work.

But this is not a "jobs availability" problem. There are more open jobs in the US today than there have been in the past.

There are many reasons for this, of course, but saying that "job creation" is the problem to be solved is just flat out wrong from many vectors of perspective.

coffeesp00ns  ·  2863 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the link. However, I didn't really infer that there were no jobs for these people - indeed, I inferred they were working, some of them multiple jobs. What I am inferring is that the jobs available are often not well-paying enough to make ends meet.

Part of this will hopefully change because as you have shown, The market is currently in a place where employees have many options for employment and can argue for better wages. But part of it is that there are many, many part time / minimum wage jobs. Minimum wage can't really pay the bills in many states, so anyone working that job either needs to be supported in some other way (perhaps sharing an apartment, living with parents), or needs to work more than one job.

So I dont think that people need to create jobs, I think that there need to be jobs that are capable of paying the bills on their own without other income.