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snoodog  ·  2871 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Deadliest mass shooting in US history kills 50 in Orlando gay bar

If your position was that we should repeal the second amendment (which so far as i can tell it was not) because its no longer necessary to have a well organized militia then that's position I can respect. That position doesn't involve destroying the rule of law the country was founded on. Now perhaps I misunderstood the point you were trying to make but if you are suggesting that we as a nation can ignore the constitution because at some point in time it is inconvenient I find it hard to have much of a discussion because that sets such a horrible precedent that nothing else is safe. You say extrapolating to the 1st amendment is an extreme but from a legal point of view the 1st and the second amendment are of equal importance. That's why I think its so dangerous to go after the second without using the appropriate legal method of changing it.





tacocat  ·  2870 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Personally, I think we should repeal the second amendment. But that's not gonna happen. You can't scream fire in a movie theater, you can't vote if you're a felon in certain cases. These are limits on the constitution that don't affect the rule of law as you keep squawking. Maybe it would be a sensible restriction that semi automatic rifles that are only used to kill humans be restricted or eliminated from public ownership. You want your goddamn handgun? Fine. You want an AR-15 because it's your constitutional right to own any firearm unimpinged? Fuck you. There are exceptions to every rule, including the constitution. Oh, well he just would have used explosives or a sharpened toothbrush handle. Fuck you too. We have an epidemic of mass shootings, not stabbings or bombings. Bomb material isn't even currently regulated like guns and people go for the guns in 99% of these cases. I could make a bomb before I could get a gun. But it's guns every time. Fuck guns. The 2nd amendment's existence doesn't equal rule of law or restrict the government from regulating which types of arms are legal.

Deltron_0  ·  2870 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We don't have an epidemic of mass shootings.

  Guns don't kill people, people kill people. 
Coming from three tours to a mental hospital, and a bipolar diagnosis, I argue our nation has an epidemic of over-prescribed, character-starved humans that are behaving animalistic. We have lost our moral tenets, and have become engrossed in searching for external solutions to internal conflicts. This is shown in our govenrnment, our FED, our medical 'industry', our military, our education, almost every major aspect that holds a debate due to the disjunct..

  History is repeating itself  I stand by the principle of the 2nd ammendment.  
here's an epidemic: people swayed by the media, rather than real data

I don't own an assault weapon, and don't have the ability to buy a gun particularly easily due to my diagnosis. But I have enough support for now to feel somewhat safe with what is coming

In the spirit of the revolutionaries who founded our nation, I argue our government has devolved to a point of beaurocracy akd inefficiency that, in many ways, mirrors the basic faults committed by the king of England that spurred our nation into existemce. They can take my assault weapon, over my dead body.

We, the people of the USA, are not our key enemy, soon enough our country will understand this, there are puppet masters operating beyond the realm of knowledge today who are bent on destroying our values. Mark my words.

Deltron_0  ·  2870 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We don't have an epidemic of mass shootings.

  Guns don't kill people, people kill people. 
Coming from three tours to a mental hospital, and a bipolar diagnosis, I argue our nation has an epidemic of over-prescribed, character-starved humans that are behaving animalistic. We have lost our moral tenets, and have become engrossed in searching for external solutions to internal conflicts. This is shown in our govenrnment, our FED, our medical 'industry', our military, our education, almost every major aspect that holds a debate due to the disjunct..

  History is repeating itself  I stand by the principle of the 2nd ammendment.  
    here's an epidemic, people swayed by the media, rather than real data
(http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/14/sunday-review/the-assault-weapon-myth.html?referer=)

I don't own an assault weapon, and don't have the ability to buy a gun particularly easily due to my diagnosis. But I have enough support for now to feel somewhat safe with what is coming

In the spirit of the revolutionaries who founded our nation, I argue our government has devolved to a point of beaurocracy akd inefficiency that, in many ways, mirrors the basic faults committed by the king of England that spurred our nation into existemce. They can take my assault weapon, over my dead body.

We, the people of the USA, are not our key enemy, soon enough our country will understand this, there are puppet masters operating beyond the realm of jnowledge today who are bent on destroying our values. Mark my words.