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joelthelion  ·  2854 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: A few thoughts after using Hubski for fifteen minutes

Regarding the slowness of the site, I meant the time it takes for servers to answer your requests. I like the fact that content is slow :)

    Takes me one? I click the link and it pops up with the external link and the comments page. Maybe it's a setting?

I mean from the feed page, I click on one link, and it brings me to that post's page. Then I can click on the link that will bring me to the external site. On reddit, clicking a link brings you right to the external site. Or am I missing something?

Edit: suddlenly it's working as you described. Weird.

Edit2: figured out why. It's because I was opening links in new tabs.





rob05c  ·  2854 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I meant the time it takes for servers to answer your requests.

Yeah, the more people you follow, the faster server responses become. We find it incentivises community interaction.

Kidding. But seriously, I'm on the dev team, and we know load times are a problem :(

The root problem is that Hubski is a fork of an old version of Hacker News. HN is Arc Lisp, and makes a lot of poor decisions, like iterating over potentially huge lists. Also, all data was serialized as lists directly to disk. We're moving to SQL. But SQL is slower than loading a dumb binary blob, so naïve data conversions make it even slower. The solution is to fix pages to only load the data they actually need, and use SQL to filter. Unfortunately, it's hard to do all at once, so as we move data into SQL it gets slower, and then as we fix code to only load what's necessary, and use SQL to filter, it gets faster again. Eventually, when all the code is converted to Racket, and all the data to SQL, it'll be fast. But until then, we're stuck with what we have.

Another problem is that we all have day jobs. I feel like I could fix, like, all the problems, if I just had a month or two to work on Hubski 40 hours/week. Such is life.

joelthelion  ·  2854 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No worries, hubski is great already. I'm also a programmer so I know these performance issues can be tricky. But I'm sure you'll solve them eventually ☺️

joelthelion  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Google's PageSpeed Insights suggests a few easier fixes for page loading times:

https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhubski.com%2Fpub%2F206645

Won't solve everything, but should be far easier to implement than the large changes you're envisioning.

joelthelion  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

While we're at it: could you increase the lifetime of a session? I think logging in every month or so should be enough, no need to do so every day.

rob05c  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Er, you shouldn't have to every day. I don't think there's even a timeout, that sounds like a bug.

Is anyone else having to log in every day?

thenewgreen  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Nope.

user-inactivated  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No re-logs on my end.

Although reading through here helped clarify a bit. I did realize going through and re-following tags that more the followers (likely b/c of posts) the longer it took to load - which as you know can be relatively long.

joelthelion  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hum, weird. I'll try it for a few more days and report back.

oyster  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't think I ever have unless I actually signed out.

thenewgreen  ·  2853 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yeah, check out your settings page by clicking your username and then "settings." You'll notice that there are a lot of options there.

Also, check out TMI at the bottom of the page. -always fun.

Also, "random."

And read this:

https://hubski.com/primer

Welcome!

CraigEllsworth  ·  2854 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You will learn the ways of the hubski :p