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Devac  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Microsoft makes final, aggressive Windows 10 upgrade push

Office - Libre/Open Office, LaTeX environment?

Video/audio editing - KDEnLive, Audacity (neither is my area of interest though)

Any programming IDE aside of the Visual Studio? Don't know much about others but it's likely not as abysmal as you might think.

Plus I'm a seventeen year old maths and physics student, what kind of work that requires stuff other than:

- Networking tools

- Text Editor

- Compiler / IDE

- Web Browser

- PDF/DVI/PS/DJVU/Oter reader

- Data processing tools that are more capable than Excel

should I be doing? By your logic 'real job' is being some sort of artist or designer. Keep with Mac or WIndows, but keep in mind that you (might) have an outdated view of things. Bit closed-minded to boot. Ten years ago no-one expected games or proprietary GPU drivers on Xnix, now they are getting more and more spotlight. Even Microsoft starts to go Open Source and released a lot of C# backend.





blackfox026  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Video/audio editing - KDEnLive, Audacity (neither is my area of interest though)

the difference between Audacity and Ableton Live is similar to the difference between Notepad and Microsoft Word

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And the difference between Pro Tools and Ableton Live is such that it cannot fit within this metaphor.

Devac  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Good to know. How does it compare to something like Bitwig? I have been doing some googling in the meantime and it seems like an Ubuntu-compatible alternative for Ableton Live. Got any experience?

By the way, I do want to stress that I was never really interested in audio/video editing. Until last week I didn't even needed something as simple as audacity.

iammyownrushmore  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Have you used LaTeX?? You have to have, and I really don't understand how you're even remotely including that as a replacement word processor.

Devac  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not word processor, but general formatting utility. I guess you are right, that's like adding HTML along because in the end it shows formatted output. My mistake.

iammyownrushmore  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Was partially curious if you maybe knew of a way to expedite it cause I foolishly decided to format my resume and CV in LaTeX, and, while it looks pretty, I am definitely feeling buyer's remorse :/

Devac  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I can give it a look if you want. I do have some background with LaTeX, but I am uncertain what do you want from me here. What tools were/are you using? The more you can tell me about both tools and your background with LaTeX the better.

By the way, if you don't want to deal with syntactical matters I can actually recommend Lyx. It offers a lot in terms of pre-made templates and you can use it to get quite a lot of power from the language without knowing a word in it. It's actually pretty close to actual word processors in that sense.

iammyownrushmore  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haha, don't worry I don't want anything. I was just curious if you were going to hit me with some package that completely transformed it's usage or something that I was ignorant of. But in the end it's still LaTeX :)

I'll check out LyX though, but I'm definitely gunning for slighter learning curves these days.

Devac  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No problem. If you would change your mind or have some more questions then don't hesitate. But it's not really just about this or that package. They add functionality but don't really transform it into something else. That would be almost like expecting C to change into Python after adding a library ;).

That aside, I have discovered Scribus recently and it feels a bit better to deliver some of the more complex designs. I'm in a similar position to you, only maybe a bit farther on the curve: I wish I knew how to make LaTeX do some of this stuff :P.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

As a professional who works in occupations that make money, you have listed a long list of toys.

In two hours I meet with an IT company to discuss the installation of a multi-head IP phone system. In two hours you go to bed. This is the problem with the Linux converts - you take the "I don't do what you do, but I've heard of this program called Audacity that appears to do audio, therefore your argument is invalid" approach and all it does is make you look foolish.

Devac  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    As a professional who works in occupations that make money, you have listed a long list of toys.

As someone who someday hopes to get a job in research, sure. Let's return to it in two or four years when I will at least have an option to work without parental consent.

    In two hours you go to bed.

Nope. It would be ~20:00 here, plus I have to prepare for my exams and classes. I don't really appreciate your attitude, but I can get what you wanted to convey with this. I'm a kid. Likely at least one third of your age? Got it.

    This is the problem with the Linux converts

I am not a convert. I never had any system other than Linux. It's not a boast nor point of pride, just a fact. My parents were using some Windows before I was even alive, my father was using linux at the university and other jobs he held. Mother is not particularly computer savvy, but I think she has some Apple desktop.

But it is another preconceived notion that you have applied to me. We have different needs and goals. We did not start in the same place in life. Just as with our smartphone discussion: I might have stated something too strongly or missed the point, but that does not mean I will never see the fault in Linux. However, on my side, it does all what I need. You want audio/video stuff, I want a system with package manager and easy to setup and use my tools. Or 'toys', whatever suits you.

I do respect both you and your opinions, but you seem to be very quick to judge while having little data. Wisdom and experience, no matter how vast, does not make you impervious to making mistakes about others. You should know it by now.

kleinbl00  ·  3112 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, I just know that your fundamental attitude is "if it's good enough for me, it's good enough for everyone" and you won't listen to reason until someone steps up and calls you on your bullshit.