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Bypel  ·  2062 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Forum where fallacies are banned

    those conclusions are NOT objective truths.

Sometimes.

In other cases the conclusion can be entirely objective (i.e. from the presence of light one can infer the existence of at least one light source).

Those are the cases I was talking about.

I note that you have only replied to 1 of my 3 points.





kleinbl00  ·  2062 days ago  ·  link  ·  

And your reply is "sometimes" without even acknowledging that your counterargument to me is my argument to you which leads me to conclude that this has long since stopped being a fruitful discussion. I don't even know what points you're talking about. But that's okay. Hie thee back to 8chan.

Bypel  ·  2043 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    your counterargument to me is my argument to you

I don't see how.

You said that conclusions from objective facts are not objective.

I pointed out an example of an objective conclusion from an objective fact, thus refuting your point.

    I don't even know what points you're talking about.

They are in the 2nd paragraph of

    Hie thee back to 8chan. (KB)

    I note that you have only replied to 1 of my 3 points. (me)

    See, you're not even thinking this all the way through. (KB)

Can we change to a polite, calm discussion rather one filled with belligerence please (I'll stop if you stop)?

Look, in almost all cases the reason I have discussions is not to 'win' and convince the other of my viewpoint or belief for the sake of it or to make him look silly but rather to help the search for truth if the matter is objective or just to express my point of view if not.