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_refugee_  ·  2469 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Women Smile At The Men Who Sexually Harass Them

I'm sorry, I had to leave to go collect myself for a minute.

As a woman, physiologically, speaking in generalities that are observable and measurable across the population of all women, I inherently am weaker, especially in terms of upper body strength, than any given man.

Not to mention that legally, assaulting someone because they yelled at you or looked at you or encroached upon your personal space or even grabbed your tit does not qualify as "self defense."

Go back to your cave, o11c. I live in something known as civilized society.





o11c  ·  2468 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    assaulting someone because they ... grabbed your tit does not qualify as "self defense."

You're giving many disparate examples. The one I quoted certainly counts.

    I live in something known as civilized society.

You do realize, there is no such thing as rights. The things we call rights only exist as long as individuals take actions to defend them.

I do agree that women should have the "right" to their own body. So, which individuals do you think should be responsible for defending that right?

_refugee_  ·  2467 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Suggesting that a subset of people who are inherently less able to fight should fight those assaulting them as a response to their assault is simply stupid.

oyster  ·  2467 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No kidding ! My go to moves are gouging eyes and tearing ball sack if it ever comes to that. That's not an easy decision to make ! I can't just punch or kick somebody, get away, and carry on with my life knowing I didn't really hurt somebody. People don't realize the mental burden it places on somebody to actually cause serious harm even though justified. Not to mention you can't go easy on the gouging or the tearing because without strength all you have is speed and surprise. It's not exactly hard for a strong person to immobilize your arms.

I'll stick to my miss polite routine thank you very much because otherwise if something did happen I would spend every night wondering what would have happened if I was just quiet/polite.

_refugee_  ·  2467 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Not to mention the legal ramifications you're probably going to experience. I'm sorry, I'm not going to get a record and punishment for assault just so one man out there presumably "learns" not to eyeball me again. Again, answering aggression with more aggression is a stupid solution.

o11c  ·  2467 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Again, you're reading something I haven't written.

If a man is only looking at you, you don't have grounds for assault.

If a man is actually assaulting you, you have every right to defend yourself.

Don't conflate different cases.

oyster  ·  2466 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm going to assume you've never been the much weaker person in a fight but as said weaker person in a fight you have to act fast and early. If a man so much as begins grabs me if I want to get away by force I need to cause a lot of harm, because If I don't he will very easily overpower me quickly. It's easy for that person to then make up some BS about how I overreacted and he was just talking to me. Was just putting his arm on my shoulder blah blah blah.

So fighting doesn't make any sense when you realize when an average woman would have to begin using force in order for it to be effective. If I do it after I'm wasting my energy, and essentially have to let myself be assaulted until a good opportunity comes up, sounds fun ! Not to mention if there is multiple attackers you're just screwed.