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comment by ooli
ooli  ·  3005 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: From Pickup Artist to Pariah

    I also wish I there was a place where I could share some of my now decade of accumulated wisdom with guys in their early 20s who are in desperate need of it. I still haven't found anything quite like it.

Start it here. You'll make Hubski the worldwide known forum for gentlemen PUAs.. You'll probably need to Block all of the girlski clique.





snoodog  ·  3005 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think its unfair to qualify women as being unable to contribute to the discussion. A woman's perspective is very valuable in understanding what does and doesn't work in dating. It just cant be the only perspective. There was a really common saying that "If you want to learn how to catch a fish you ask a fisherman" implying that if you want to learn how to date women ask other men who are successful with women. I agree with this to a point that if you only could ask one the fisherman might be more valuable. If you could ask a fish as well, why wouldn't you? There is a lot understanding to be gained for both men and women from the discussion its not a zero sum game. Dating and relationships are confusing because we don't really understand each-other the closer we come to understanding the more likely both people will have a positive experience.

The problem I see more is the idea of self-censorship. Ideas that are unpopular and don't conform with the common wisdom get down-voted and flamed into infinity reddit style. There is value in having people with weird/different and even seemingly ridiculous opinions because often those can foster some really thought provoking discussions. When people run around calling ideas they disagree with racist, sexists, rape-enablers, etc. the discussion just shuts down and everyone looses. And BTW in my opinion, men are just as guilty of this in relationship topics as women are.