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veen  ·  3432 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Solar and the power grid

I've seen solar companies infiltrating department stores here, too. Even IKEA now has booths for solar power. But there's been a surge in big community solar farms - like one of the Dutch Wadden islands building a 6MW plant. Uncle of mine outfitted his entire farm with more solar power than he needed, so now he receives money from the energy company every month.

    8 cents

I think that's half of the problem. Electricity here is around 18-25 eurocents ($0.20-$0.27). That's why it can pay itself back within a decade.

The other half - holy shit, 12,000 kWh is insane. Average power usage here is around 4,000 kWh per household. The average U.S. household power consumption is 10,932.





kleinbl00  ·  3432 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ha! Thanks for making me look at my Los Angeles power bill, because they owe me $150!

In Los Angeles, with no AC and no heat, we burned about 16,000 kWh. I don't know what the penetration of natural gas is in Europe, but in most of the US, heating is not accomplished by electricity, which skews the numbers.

veen  ·  3432 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The apartment or the NoHo? Damn, are the faders power hungry or something?

I just asked my parents, their small separated house uses around 2500 kWh a year. Heating (edit: and cooking) is through gas. Natural gas is the default here too, since it's been readily available for decades. Thanks, Carboniferous:

(...well, it was readily available until the earthquakes started)

kleinbl00  ·  3432 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, dude, the place you stayed. The one lit entirely by LEDs. Best guess? 90% of that is big American refrigerators, big American hot water heaters and big American stoves. Everything else is a flyspeck.