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b_b  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: December 14th: What are you reading this week?

I finally finished Cryptonomicon after several weeks of delays. It sparked my interest in reading a bit about Japanese history (a topic I know painfully little about), so I picked up a relatively decent sized comprehensive middle ages to 20th c. book called The Making of Modern Japan just this afternoon at the library. I'm mostly hoping to get a decent reading list put together out of it. I've never found comprehensive histories to be all that interesting, because the best they an ever do is give you a snap shot of something interesting.

Have you read House of Leaves? It's in the horror fiction genre. I've not read it yet, but my buddy has been recommending it to me for a couple years now.





rinx  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I loved House of leaves, it's front and center in my book collection. One of the few books I've read that really scared me. Let me know if you get around to reading it!

pirx  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Man, I love Neal Stephenson. I might have to read Seveneves after I'm done with my current book.

rinx  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

SevenEves was pretty good, it's one of those books I'd like to see as a movie or video game. Let me know if you like it.

b_b  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I never heard of him until a month or so ago. If his other books are half as good as Cryptonomicon then I'm eager to read more. Any recommendations?

pirx  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Check out The Baroque Cycle if you want something similarly sprawling and complex. Stephenson was inspired to write the series while working on Cryptonomicon and it's clearly meant as a spiritual successor.

rinx  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Diamond Age! So fun.

user-inactivated  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

flagamuffin was really into Anathem, I think.

user-inactivated  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yep. It and Cloud Atlas are tops in fiction for me this century so far. Right up b_b's alley.

b_b  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Have we discussed cloud atlas? I don't remember, but perhaps we have if you remember that I think it's fantastic. Love it.

user-inactivated  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

With someone, maybe you. It was everything, in my opinion, that a postmodern (post-Dickens/Tolstoy/Austen) novel should be, even though most of them are instead gibberish. No one ever needed a second reading to grasp Pride and Prejudice. No one ever wanted a second reading to grasp Ulysses. I've watched modern literature devolve -- hey this turning into a rant, who is surprised -- into postmodernism and nonsense but Mitchell and Chabon and a handful of others continue to prove it's possible to weave storytelling and modernism into literature. I'll never abandon the classics but these guys have found a sweet spot.

Also thought the movie did the best it could with a difficult task.

b_b  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I very much liked the movie. I thought it was similar enough to relate the feeling of the book while also taking their own direction far enough away that it was easy to view them as two separate works. Casting the same people in each time period was brilliant, and really added a new layer that wasn't present in the book, too.

kleinbl00  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Making of Modern Japan is on my list.

thundara  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Making of Modern Japan is on my list.

I seem to remember you mentioning Orientalism the last round of this. Did you see this odd news / editorial from a few weeks ago?

kleinbl00  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I did, but didn't look at it. Orientalism is about what the CIA calls "South Asia", what Tamim Ansary calls "The Middle World" and what West calls The Middle East.

thundara  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    By the mid-20th century, Western scholars generally considered "the Orient" as just East Asia, Southeast Asia, and eastern Central Asia.[2] As recently as the early 20th century, the term "Orient" often continued to be used in ways that included North Africa and even parts of southeastern Europe. Today, the term primarily evokes images of China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, and peninsular Southeast Asia.[2]

From wikipedia^^ Huh, TIL.

b_b  ·  3590 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I picked it by going to my library, researching what Japanese history they had to offer, finding that their grand total amounted to one shelf (at least half of which were books about samurai), and then trying to use the internet to figure out which of the books might suit my interest. Fortunately the internet appears to have a high opinion of MoMJ. Will report back in a few weeks.

pirx  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

House of Leaves was really fun. Do yourself a favor and don't read anything about it. Any synopsis gives away too much. Just get a copy and read it.

user-inactivated  ·  3591 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is currently sitting in my 'to read' pile. I've heard that while it's fun to read, it's quite a chore. Some parts look... daunting.