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cgod · 4622 days ago · link · · parent · post: Peter Jackson Responds to 'Hobbit' Footage Critics, Explains 48-Frames Strategy
Gimli was fucking abhorrent. Dwarves are bad mofos, not jesters. If there was anything in the LotR films that really took me out of the story it was bullshit like "dwarf tossing." It really made me incredibly angry that Jackson inserted terrible cheap jokes instead of telling the tale as it was told. I understand editing out material to fit the the format, but adding extraneous, dated, bigoted material was a bad move on his part. In one hundred year I'm sure that "dwarf tossing" will be a "sport" outside of the most viewers understanding, dumb ass thing to put into a timeless classic.
thenewgreen · 4622 days ago · link ·
"Not the beard, not the beard"! -Horrible line too
thenewgreen · 4622 days ago · link ·
I agree that Gimli was essentially the Jar-Jar of the LotR series (though nowhere near as bad). The Dwarf tossing line was extremely weak. I'm not sure it's going to be as detrimental to the legacy of the films as you do. Overall, I'd say Jackson did a pretty great job with the material. It's incredibly dense stuff and from a birds eye view he was pretty true to the feel. Tom Bombadill aside -though I admit this is a BIG aside.
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I don't think it's going to be detrimental to the legacy. When making a timeless classic, generally people try to avoid dated pop culture memes. "dwarf tossing" had no place in the original work and I think a significant percentage of the society looks at that "game" as degrading. It was just bad form.
The rest of the dwarf humor isn't nearly as bad, but it was Jackson own addition to the story, one that he would have been better off making.
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thenewgreen · 4621 days ago · link ·
Agreed. I found myself not liking Gimli in the film which was a shame because I loved him in the books. Looking forward to the Hobbit!