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comment by kleinbl00
kleinbl00  ·  3386 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is There Anything Good About Men?

So when I say you're looking for a reason to be offended and deliberately misrepresenting arguments so you can be pissed off, deliberately misrepresenting arguments so you can be pissed off doesn't make your case.

"Black men created jazz" does not mean "there were no women in jazz."

"Women favor small groups" does not mean "only women pursue solo activity."

You're not even going for the tangential arguments ("women clearly composed as much as men, it's just that in a patriarchal society they had a much harder time having their compositions heard") you're moving the goal posts to where the author argued somewhere that men can't be poets.

And then you wrote a paragraph invoking a sci fi story, Footloose and Reddit.

Go to sleep. Wake up. Have coffee. Take a deep breath. Then read it again. I'm not going to tell you why you're wrong when an article arguing that evolutionarily, women and men have different goals gets turned into a diatribe about Marie Curie.





_refugee_  ·  3386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe my problem is I just don't relate to what women are supposed to be.

kleinbl00  ·  3385 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe your problem is you're seeking a personal judgement from a statistical argument put forth in a speech given eight years ago.

user-inactivated  ·  3386 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is a common problem with scientific studies, particularly in psychology and sociology. It's so hard to look at generalized statistics and understand that just because you don't fit the description does not mean they are any less true on average. I think you're right that this is what trips you up. You are not a typical female, so seeing these studies that show females on average are overwhelmingly different from you is hard to believe.