Unless there's some big thing that happened that I totally missed, I think you're typifying my interaction with eightbit last night as "racist" or "hate speech" or at least "speech that is harmful to others". If challenging your narrative is hate speech you really ought to step back and check your personal bias.
So like, maybe you should take a discussion that is really and only about whether or not unpopular decisions deserve to be heard more than popular ones for what it is, instead of for veiled commentary about you, brah. I literally didn't think about you once while I was writing this post. Yes, I was considering the threads of last night but to be frank, the only person I thought Q might be commenting on was me. You can cool your heels now. EDIT here are my edits because of course I have more to say. a) A discussion that got so nasty a beloved and long term member of the community deleted his account almost immediately afterwards, and then a second one did shortly afterwards, seems to me like it could be considered "harmful" speech. Clearly it so upset multiple people that they were driven away from a place they once loved, and where they were loved and appreciated. I would consider harm done. I absolutely think that there were detrimental impacts on this community. Now, do you want to take responsibility for that whole thread? Seems like you do. I wasn't gonna bother, you know, it takes two to tango and whatever, but since you're volunteering, sure. You can be the alpha and omega of the drama and altercations last night. b) Really brah? You wanna have an argument with me about whether or not I felt that the discussion last night was racist? First, we already did that once. During that discussion. Second, clearly, that didn't go well for either party. It seems unwise to try to reinitiate. Are you just trying to see how many users that do more than pick fights you can force to leave? (Note: I'm using "you" here because, apparently, you're the only person responsible for what went down last night; see point a. If you had realized that you weren't the only person in that thread, I wouldn't suggest you were on a personal vendetta. But because it's all about you brah, it's all about you.)
Well maybe I would if there hadn't just been a thread full of people acting like my not supporting protests means I'm a racist bastard. If you're not referencing that, though, fair enough. I guess I'm not privvy to whatever subject it is you are referencing, as I've yet to see any of the sort of interactions you describe on Hubski and I'm only aware of one user who spouts that kind of shit.
So yes: congratulations, you read the first part of my comment where I said I thought Q was responding to stuff that happened last night. That doesn't mean that my discussion of the actual point Q was making is meant as direct reference to or commentary upon what you said. Like seriously, I had already mostly forgotten about you. Like, yes, asshole users, deleted thread, blah blah blah. That would be a thing that is now over. There were multiple speakers in that thread I didn't like and frankly, I wasn't planning on remembering any of you. Congratulations, you had a chance to let things kind of simmer down and blow over, but because you couldn't help seeing a discussion about the validity of opinions and speech as an attack on you, you've stirred my pot again and you're back in the center of my attention. So far that has not been a very fun place for you to be. Am I right? It hasn't been fun for me, you, or anyone else. So maybe you should relax a little. Maybe you should step back a bit. Did I feel like the overall thread took on racist tones, yeah, sure. Is that why I used racism as my first example? Yup you bet. Had I remembered you as "the racist"? Nope. In fact I felt more of my beef was directed at that other guy who hopefully is smart enough not to interject here because I don't remember his name right now and that's for the better. Like it could've been for you. But no. Ya think this is the only argument about race we've ever had on Hubski? Ya think, based on the way that thread exploded last night, that maybe it happens a lot so maybe it's one of the easiest examples to turn to when we have discussions about this? Would you agree that, if you are an optimist, you would hope that racism was an unpopular opinion, but just because it is unpopular does not mean it deserves to be heard? Because that is what I am saying in my comment. __ You seem to feel very much on the defense right now and I can understand why that is. However, I don't think it's a wise tactic to antagonize and bring attention back to you, so soon after the incident that made you feel attacked. I don't feel the need to pretend I am discussing one topic in order to give veiled, snarky, cowardly commentary on other events. That should already be clear to you. I am referencing the subject of this thread. Passive aggression is for bullshitters who can't stand up. When I have a problem, I will actively and aggressively address it. As I did last night. Why don't you do everyone, but especially yourself, a favor and try to start repairing your relationships with community members you may care about, demonstrate that you are a level-headed, intelligent, and valuable member of this community, and show us that you are more than one part of the regrettable events of last night? That is what I would want to do. I would want to prove to people I am not what they think I am and that I am better than that. I certainly wouldn't go around trying to start an argument with how they may feel about last night. I would try to remember that you were far from the only person in that thread. In short: it's not all about you, but if you want to make it that way, I don't think you're going to find it fun and i don't think it's going to help you. Let's get some per aspera ad astra shit going on here dude. I'm trying to leave the mud behind and it seems you just want to throw it all over the future.
You: - only assumed I was referring to you specifically when I acknowledged generic events (let us note that during the course of those generic events, I only interacted with you once) - assumed the gist of my post in a thread about free speech was really a passive aggressive takedown of you, - assumed that comments I made that were clearly about hate speech on a completely different website were somehow, magically, directed towards your comments on Hubski ("hate speech") - then used your first two notably self-centric assumptions to conclude that I was also calling you, directly, racist in that comment - then tried to tell me that all these opinions you had given me were wrong - right after the night before there'd been a very incendiary discussion that DID revolve around such opinions and in which I HAD disagreed with you and which in no way yielded a fruitful or positive discussion for any parties involved. (Do you disagree?) In other words, to underline that last bullet, you got yourself offended and then you got all up in my business in the very same topic which had resulted in an very multi-person and very harmful argument the night before. If you weren't trying to start an argument then maybe I am giving your awareness too much benefit of the doubt.
Paper mold, by the way. There's no way to get rid of it once it's started growing on an object. You see it in possessions taken out of flooded houses. One LP sleeve with paper on it will spread to and rot away an entire collection. It's sad when you can't get a really nice record for $.50 because of paper mold.