I'd just like to express here that the fact that eightbitsamurai is black apparently and I'm white does not make me "his oppressor". Is he queer? Is he physically able? Does he have mental illness? Is he gender conforming? Has he been homeless? Has he been physically abused? Do I get to cast him as "my oppressor" if he's neutrotypical? If he's able bodied? If acts and dresses in a masculine manner or fucks women? Does it matter that at the height of racism in the United States half my ancestors wouldn't even be considered white? What I disagree with is this sentiment that only race matters and race trumps logic. It's racist nonsense. In terms of the black lives matters protests specifically, what I disagree with is human walls blocking entry to schools, road blocks preventing people from getting where they need to go, and people hijacking political events. Especially, for that matter, when it's an event that's going to help their cause. Bernie Sanders wants to tax the rich and help the poor. You know who that will help disproportionately? Black people. He wants decriminalization of drugs. You know who that helps disproportionately? Black people. Hilary Clinton isn't going to swoop in and make massive economic changes, she's center-right. She's the safe candidate. Why don't they fuck with Hilary Clinton, who has said publicly that line they hate so much, "all lives matter" and who has no ambition of resource distribution? Why scream at the underdog who might actually do something good? It's not as if these rallies don't matter to the election. My problem with black lives matter isn't that it's trying to improve the lives of black people and draw attention to the ways in which our society demonizes black people and oppresses them. I absolutely, 100%, believe that black people are oppressed in the United States. That's not an excuse for hamfisted racist blundering in place of actual intelligent action. I didn't like OWS either. That doesn't make me a conservative or a racist, it makes me someone who won't automatically lick your boots just because you've taken up a position or two I agree with.
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Hey, if you want to not bother to read past the first sentence and find out why I'm saying what I'm saying, that's your own decision. If you want to make me a straw racist then go ahead and build an effigy in my image, I don't really care. If someone can't be bothered to read what I have to say why on Earth would I care what they think of the little snippets that piss them off? Well Planned Parenthood is different. I've raised thousands of dollars for them and I think they're a great organization. I've never heard of them doing anything I've disapproved of. The black lives matters protestors seem to be totally fine with the three things I keep coming back to. Blocking access to educational facilities, obstructing major roadways, and disrupting the political rallies of underdogs who are more on their side than the party's frontrunner. I don't see any subsection of black lives matter condemning that. What I see is people getting real pissed off when anyone says all lives matter. Just because I say fuck Scientology doesn't mean I'm working for Xenu. I could honestly give a fuck less. If you want to be intellectually lazy and paint with broad strokes go for it. It's your world view. I'm fine.
Ahaha, yes. Because intersectionality when invoked by a male is #notallmen. I'm done biting too. I don't play with sexists.
Well that's lovely for you. Personally, 8bit has been only rude to me so, again, not really concerned.I didn't like OWS either, that doesn't mean it's not way way so easy to see how that statement was pretty offensive. I don't care why you don't like the political movement. I'm saying what you said was offensive, incendiary, and can easily be read as "fuck black lives" and not just "fuck the movement."
If someone says "fuck Planned Parenthood," I'm not going to be like "Oh this person is a feminist, they just don't like that PP is gov't funded!" or some shit. I'm going to be like, "PP empowered me personally and thousands of woman across the country every day, fuck you."
Oh I'm sorry. Is what you are saying that there was nuance in your opinion? And you are upset that people didn't see that when you didn't express it? You are upset that all these complicated, more fair, and more reasonable opinions you have put out now, did not come across when you said "fuck a thing?"
You can #notallmen all the fuck over this thread, I'm done biting too.
I have done my standing up in this thread because it is what I do: I stand up when I think it's necessary. I knew this day was gonna come and I believe that 8bit deserves, at least, my backing, support, and sympathy.
I didn't like OWS either, that doesn't mean it's not way way so easy to see how that statement was pretty offensive. I don't care why you don't like the political movement. I'm saying what you said was offensive, incendiary, and can easily be read as "fuck black lives" and not just "fuck the movement." If someone says "fuck Planned Parenthood," I'm not going to be like "Oh this person is a feminist, they just don't like that PP is gov't funded!" or some shit. I'm going to be like, "PP empowered me personally and thousands of woman across the country every day, fuck you." Oh I'm sorry. Is what you are saying that there was nuance in your opinion? And you are upset that people didn't see that when you didn't express it? You are upset that all these complicated, more fair, and more reasonable opinions you have put out now, did not come across when you said "fuck a thing?" Gorsh. I'm so surprised by that. You can #notallmen all the fuck over this thread, I'm done biting too. I have done my standing up in this thread because it is what I do: I stand up when I think it's necessary. I knew this day was gonna come and I believe that 8bit deserves, at least, my backing, support, and sympathy. Edit: I have figured out how to get around the nuclear-ban(kind of). But in general I accept that I don't want to talk to those who don't want to talk to me. Also if your point is "well that organization is different, because I support that organization," you're kind of deliberately missing the point. If you can't be arsed to express nuance in your first jerk off comment a) stay on reddit b) don't be surprise when people identify your lack of effort as the crusty semen it is. I reiterate: in no way at any point did I try to say you were racist. I said, if you say a shitty thing, people are going to think you are shitty. This is even easier if you say a shitty thing that is easily misinterpreted to mean an even shittier thing and you don't bother to, like, idk, elaborate and reveal that you aren't that shitty. Saying fuck blacklivesmatter is incendiary. That is and has always been my point. I have never said you are racist because of it and have repeatedly pointed out that like 25% of the problem with that phrase is how easy it is to misinterpret and think means more than what I believe you do. But honey? Fuckin 90% of the problem is your attitude.
If you come across as douchey the solution isn't to say it's everyone else's problem. If you are an adult you should be able to acknowledge how you contribute to the conflicts you find yourself in. mk idk how you feel about this but via edits and "see parent" and so on I can hijack the nuke ban and frankly I am smart and self confident enough to accept the rejection of those who reject me, so you might want to look at what can be done to disallow that. Pax folks! I got so much bigger fish to fry P.s. Everybody I hope you have real fun responding to someone who probs can't even read what you say let alone respond to it. Don't worry, I understand. You have a hard on for feeling right and it's real easy to jack off when the person you want to say is wrong can't respond to tell you no. Somehow you will convince yourself that it's worthwhile to respond anyway, you know, for the audience. That's okay I get it. We are all ugly humans. But how much does the last word matter if you are arguing with a gagged man? Go ahead and fight someone who's tied up - I understand. When you can't win a fair fight of course you should find one that's slanted in your favor instead. Well, I mean... Right?