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Thanks for the reply. I agree with much of it.

    I want my conversation tracking graph back.
-We all do. I don't think this was an intentional thing. When mk gets back, we'll put that at the top of the list. I miss it for the same reasons you do. It's a good feature.

    if you intend to monetize Hubski and accept donations, you need a way to convert those donations back into something of value. This pretty much demonstrates that you see a donation model as a stopgap on the way to profitability
I hear you. I'm not sure that "profitability" is the goal, but sustainability is. If we are to continue to put the amount of time we put in to this place, eventually it needs to become my full time pursuit or I will keep getting fired from my jobs. No joke.

I don't see user donations getting us there, but perhaps I'm wrong. I would also be glad to take a SUBSTANTIAL pay cut in order to make Hubski my full time pursuit. The way I was thinking about it was very much akin to the NPR model, where only 34% of the operating funds come from the public:

Also, I'm literally just spit-balling, which I know YOU know, but anyone else reading this, don't get freaked out. None of this is in the works, I'm just thinking transparently with you all.





Isherwood  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've been doing work in the non-profit sector of the triangle and they have a lot of technology issues. I haven't been able to put my full force behind figuring it out, but there may be a solution there where you can build solutions for them part time, implement hubski as a back end chat program for donors and participants, and use that money to support the project.

Just random thoughts.

user-inactivated  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Point them towards TechSoup if you haven't already.

Isherwood  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

THIS IS GREAT!

thenewgreen  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks for the thought. I'm not really interested in an enterprise version of Hubski. If you take a look at the DvH model, you'll see that it's a perfect fit. It doesn't disrupt the community at all, we would get to hand select the media/pulications/blogs that have it in a manner that helps to grow our community around high-integrity content.

Thanks though.

kleinbl00  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

if you're willing to accept money to make the thing go, you should be willing to accept money to make the thing stand up on its own. I'm not saying "all in on Mammon" but profits give a lot of operational flexibility. You either make money or you don't. If you're willing to make money, don't set out to suck at it.

thenewgreen  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I hear that, but I also don't want it to ever be the driving force. There are needs and wants and it's dangerous to confuse the two.

kleinbl00  ·  3197 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If Hubski focuses on social architecture that protects and enriches the community and system architecture that runs light and easily, the two goals will be entirely separated. One needn't have anything to do with the other.