8BITFUNFACTS - "Black" Vijay applied to 14 schools, and only 1 accepted him - it was also the lowest ranked school. - He never applied while being honest about his original race, meaning he has nothing to compare to - you know, the basis of a basic 7th grade science experiment. - This prick is bitching about AA but hasn't said shit about legacy admissions. HMM, I WONDER WHY, SURELY IT'S NOT BECAUSE HE'S A RACIST ASSHOLE. - He attacks AA but doesn't realize that AA considers other shit like, I DUNNO, SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, MAYBE. Besides that, Affirmative Action benefits white women more than anyone else, like, all the fucking time - Fuck you and the racist horse you rode in on bruh like seriously damn
I don't know anything about this guy, Mindy's brother, but I do know that in order to do something like this you need to be a liar. Flat out, a liar. Therefore, anything he has to say to me about his experience is pretty much coming from a place of zero credibility. His last paragraph is a question worth asking though. I work for a company that has a BAD ASS CEO. Like, this guy is literally my hero and he just happens to be African American. There is no questioning his competency, but I guarantee that because of affirmative action, some people make ridiculous assumptions. Even you once wrote that people make this assumption of you in Boulder. There has to be a better way and I think you are right when you wrote, "SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, MAYBE" -Wouldn't this be a better place to target affirmative action, rather than race/ethnicity? If we want to help a disadvantaged group, the impoverished are where we should be directing our attention in regards to education. Don't you think?Second, I think that affirmative action tends to promote racial resentment and perpetuates negative stereotypes. Some Asian-Americans and whites believe they are the victims of affirmative-action discrimination and can feel resentment about it. Affirmative action also furthers negative stereotypes about the professionalism and competency of African-American, Native American, and Hispanic professionals by making it seem like they need special treatment.
Is this really the best solution?
That makes you a fucking idiot. The only thing "promoting racial resentment" is your own stupid ass. I've dealt with that shit too. The number of minorities that actually benefits from AA is not enough for Asian-Americans to bitch about it. The assumption is erroneous. If people read a fucking book now and again they'd see how often AA even helps minorities. And besides that, the assumption itself is racist, not the tool. Even if people assume it, so fucking what, in the end. I'm black, that's the least of my fucking problems at the moment. I'd rather people think it and it goes to the people who need it than to not have it at all. Except. Except minorities are the ones that are impoverished to begin with. Hence why its necessary.Second, I think that affirmative action tends to promote racial resentment and perpetuates negative stereotypes. Some Asian-Americans and whites believe they are the victims of affirmative-action discrimination and can feel resentment about it.
Even you once wrote that people make this assumption of you in Boulder
If we want to help a disadvantaged group, the impoverished are where we should be directing our attention in regards to education. Don't you think?
But then, what happens if some racist person in admissions is choosing all white, male applicants from the AA pool? Women and minorities would still be screwed. It's a fucked up situation. AA is attempting to solve a problem that starts LONG before the college application process. Therefore, the long-term solution needs to occur well before the need for AA. It's baffling that we have such insanely bad schools in the US and are so wealthy. It's shameful. How outta-whack are our priorities? All children should have access to quality education from the age of 3 years old on. We need a level playing field. The field can't be leveled at the time of college enrollment, it needs to be from childhood. What if a portion the size of our interest payments on debt was set aside for early childhood education/care? That would be something, wouldn't it? I think the solution, long term is all about educating the poorest among us. AA is a bandaid that I hope we don't need when my grandkids are around. You write, Except. Except minorities are the ones that are impoverished to begin with. Hence why its necessary
No doubt that the majority of the poor in the US are either hispanic or black. Both groups make up about 26% of the poor in the US. Whites are 10% of the poor. I would think the best way to go would be to offer affirmative action for people below the poverty line regardless of race/ethnicity. 
If people read a fucking book now and again they'd see how often AA even helps minorities
-I haven't read any books on the topic. Are there some you would suggest?
If it's solely needs-based, then I'd say it's no longer "affirmative action" at all. You're arguing here that affirmative action should not exist, full stop. Just sayin'.I would think the best way to go would be to offer affirmative action for people below the poverty line regardless of race/ethnicity.
You're arguing here that affirmative action should not exist, full stop. Just sayin'.
No I'm not. My intent with the comment was to "think aloud," and not argue a point either way. Not because I have no convictions, but because I'm not sure how I feel about AA as a solution to a very real problem. You'll note that right after the bit you quote I wrote:But then, what happens if some racist person in admissions is choosing all white, male applicants from the AA pool? Women and minorities would still be screwed.
Affirmative action is not the same as financial aid.
I read the article. I assume you did too. He saw a friend with better grades than he get denied for entrance in to Med school. ( BTW I have a spouse that went through the med school process, I understand it well. He could have been denied for any number of reasons beyond GPA.) Because his friend was denied he was terrified. At the time med school meant everything. Therefore, he lied in order to benefit from AA. He wasn't trying to conduct an experiment, he was acting in a despicable manner. Period. It's convenient in hindsight to reframe it as a social experiment, but the truth is it wasn't intended as such. The guy just wanted to get in and lied in order to do so. What really sucks is that someone that AA was actually meant to help could have potentially benefited from the program and become a good physician. Instead, the guy quits. I don't think much of this fella.
This is interesting and suggests that I reconsider this post. I can imagine someone as motivated as Vijay Chokal-Ingam might find he can only get on the board of directors as a woman. Of course, as a woman, he might discover all kinds of attitude, sexual harrassment and discrimination in the way that "Jo-Jo" Chokal-Ingam discovered life was different when he presented as black.