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thenewgreen  ·  3509 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: David Graeber: Dickheads: The paradox of the necktie resolved

    In western culture, a person in a suit is normally someone who is important because of their knowledge, power, wealth, ect. This is a stereotype that people have been exposed to from a young age.
Yes, and at a young age it is a slight of hand trick that may actually work on you. As you get older though, the effect certainly wears off. mk writes,
    Perhaps a more interesting question is not what a tie represents, but when and where is it expected, and when can you get away without it?
I think about this often. When I started my career in sales, I was mandated to wear a tie. This was selling at a company making commission only and my annual earnings were a fraction of what they are now. The higher that I moved up in the professional world, the higher my earnings potential rose, the less expected the tie became. There are only very rare meetings these days where I will wear a tie. VERY rare. The most I get dressed up these days is in a sports coat.

We now live in a society where the entrepreneur is celebrated more than the corporate CEO. The guys running startups, with ping-pong tables in the boardrooms and casual Friday, every day. That said, randomuser is right, wearing a suit for special events when you normally don't have to is fun. I had to wear a tuxedo earlier in the year and I'll be damned if I didn't feel like.... well, like randomuser said... James Bond.

James Bond with his Hubski spy cam





OftenBen  ·  3509 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The tuxedo hasn't changed in years and years because it looks good on everybody. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

thenewgreen  ·  3509 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have often thought about how many ancillary, unneeded pieces of apparel that women are expected to wear and really, there aren't many for men.... except the neck tie.

randomuser  ·  3503 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's also funny because I realized, when reading this that the only thing I have a lot of, attire-wise like women's and their "unneeded pieces of apparel," are ties.

My dress attire is as follows: 1 x blazer 1 x tux 1 x dress shoes 1 x nice leather belt (brown/black reversible, it's awesome) 2 x pairs or dress shoes ~8 x ties in different colors/hilarious design obscurities.