I'm sorry that you feel this way. Sadly there's no way of bringing this topic up without people feeling judged. I'm pointing at something you do so it's a natural reaction, but tell me how can this ever be talked about without you feeling like I'm pointing at you? Imagine one day you wake up and realise that there are concentration camps everywhere and not only is everyone ok with it they attack you and accuse you for even bringing the subject up. How would you feel?f*(k you for judging me
No. Stop right there. Do not continue. I intentionally left out this subsection of vegetarians because I would never dare accuse anyone here of being ones of these people. This is the last group of vegetarians: the vile, dehumanizing people that put eating meat on fucking par with genocide. Do you not realize how disgusting that is to do? When millions of human beings were systematically murdered, you see no problem with saying that's the same as animals being herded and eaten? It comes dangerously close with equating minorities with lesser people. That there's a separation between humans and them.there are concentration camps everywhere
Your shocked reaction sounds as if I just showed support for human genocide! We should be horrified at all kinds of biased discrimination, exploitation and murdering. There's an interesting philosophical question here. Why are you appalled at human genocide and not non-human animal genocide? What makes a human life worth more than other animals? Just because you are lucky enough to be part of the human tribe? We are an animal, which happens to have developed the capacity to higher thinking and with that comes great responsibility. We seem more evolved than other animals but which species would not think that of themselves? Other animals have also shown capacity for learning and creating social bonds. If all animals (us included) are capable of suffering why is it wrong to compare suffering across species? Billions of animals are bred, live their lives in cages and get murdered every year for no good reason other than, we can and we want. If this isn't a genocide of sorts, I don't know what is.
Which part of my argument do you have an issue with?
Your definitions. A concentration camp is a device used to achieve a political end, the destruction, complete destruction of a group of humans, for no profit or reason other than politics. A farm, even a factory farm, is an engine of PRODUCTION. It is the result of market forces acting upon those who at one point (And some still do) cared for their animals with love and attention, under divine command to be good stewards of the earth, as the apex sentient beings. All life is not equal. Life in a meat farm is nasty, brutish and cheap. But no more or less so than nature is nasty, brutish and cheap.
Well, I have an issue with YOUR definitions. Do you really not see anything wrong with the reduction of a living sentient being to a unit of production?! A century ago we would be having this discussion about slaves. Life is "nasty, brutish and cheap" in nature because survival is at play. A factory farm is a controlled environment for the enslavement of sentient beings. Two very different things.
If you believe that all( ANIMAL ) life is equal, do you believe that all death is equal? I'm against factory farming. When possible, I get my meat from wild game, or local farmers who love and respect their herds/flocks. I'm also a broke college student, so such ethical high ground is a luxury.
I believe that all suffering is equal and therefore we should do all we can to avoid it or minimize it regardless of species. Life preservation when having the choice. A plant based diet is not more expensive than a meat based one. Veggies are cheaper than meat.
I would hope you'd jump in on this too haha I was having a productive morning at work, but no way would I allow that to go without being said. The same argument comes out of pro-lifers, but at least when it does there, it involves what they think is human. Comparing to animals is just... putrid.
It's so good to know that now we are literally hitler if we eat meat
I like to sit in the double Hitler section at Denny's. "Come eat mit us!"