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kleinbl00  ·  3497 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Foreign Affairs: What really happened in Iran in 1953  ·  

This article flies in the face of:

- The Cold War: A New History by John Lewis Gaddis

- Legacy of Ashes By Tim Wiener

- Hatred's Kingdom by Dore Gold

- Sleeping with the Devil by Robert Baer

But most importantly

- All the Shah's Men, Overthrow and Reset, all by Stephen Kinzer.

And it fucks up stupid things, like saying the US didn't foment revolution prior to the vote of no confidence against the Shah When the CIA straight up bragged about it. It goes to great lengths to point out what a useless leader Mossadegh was without also noting that Mohammed Reza was a pussilanimous playboy widely acknowledged to lack the iron fist of his father Reza Shah.

Look - the "mythical" stuff outlined in this extremely verbose, extremely confusing article aren't really held as unassailable truths by anyone who pays attention to this sort of thing. And the fundamentals of the events aren't really questioned (aside from that "US had nothing to do with paying rabblerousers to fuck with elections" thing, which is certifiable bullshit). What really happened in Iran was:

- The US offered Saudi Arabia a much better deal for its oil than England was offering Iran for its oil

- Reza Shah, who assed out the Qajars, handed power over to his weak and useless son

- Mossadegh rode a wave of nationalist populism to the prime ministership and nationalized the Anglo Iranian Oil Company (AKA BP)

- The British asked for American help to depose Mossadegh and conveniently failed

- The Americans made another pass a few days later without British help and conveniently succeeded

- The British were assed out of Iran and the Middle East, their claims to The Great Game dashed until their furtive attempt at the Suez crisis in 1967 (at which point the Americans pinned their ears back for once and for all)

- The United States installed a puppet simp that would do anything we told him to do and spent all of his country's money on arms he didn't need, thus providing us with oil and a convenient dumping ground for shiny military hardware (#1 investor in military arms in 1978: Iran. #2: Saudi Arabia).

- England becomes a vassal state of the United States with no oil claims other than f'ing Scotland; US props up a despot in Iran that becomes increasingly dependent on secret police and death squads

- The Ford administration effectively eliminates HUMINT in the CIA, thereby leaving the US blind to an obvious, inevitable Islamic revolution

- The modern Middle East as we know it

This article attempts to say that without the CIA, things would be the same... without also noting that without the CIA, the Iranians would have ended up with their own leader who likely wouldn't have spent all of Iran's money on American fighter planes. He probably wouldn't have sold the oil at whatever price Texaco wanted, either.

And it does so by quibbling over details that can't really be quibbled over.





user-inactivated  ·  3497 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The idea is for me to eventually read every single one of those books -- but especially Kinzer's -- so that I no longer have to take your word for it. Or CFR's.

At that point, of course, I'll just be taking Stephen Kinzer's word as gospel, but it's a start.

kleinbl00  ·  3497 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd be reaaaaaaal careful about FP while you're at it. It's a lobbyist organization, no matter how much it pretends it isn't - kind of a right-wing counterbalance to the Union of Concerned Scientists.

It's useful right now for somebody to start the narrative of "what we did to Iran really wasn't that big of a deal" so that there's good'n'proper pushback on any deal with Iran.

As far as books, the first two are probably the broadest and a great place to start. Legacy of Ashes was a hell of a read, albeit kind of a bittersweet one post-Snowden; Wiener paints the CIA as this crippled, gelded organization with no real power when in fact their budget tripled after 9/11. Shit, they gained a goddamn air force.

user-inactivated  ·  3497 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sure, sure, but I really enjoy some of the essays that get published. I can't help it. It's high quality as hell and right of center as hell, but at least they're writing about history and trying to put events in a historical context, even if it has bias.

I might just give up on periodicals, except maybe NY Review, because I'm so tired of the narrow scope.

kleinbl00  ·  3497 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's pretty slim, I admit. I subscribe only to The Week, because it's like the Reader's Digest of newsmagazines, and Saudi Aramco World because I want my pro-Arabian historical propaganda in as slick and informative packaging as I can find it.