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comment by nowaypablo
nowaypablo  ·  3863 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What is "The Red Pill?"

How does one deprogram a cult again?

    They need to know that their ideas are stupid, they aren't.

I don't think they're listening objectively, if at all, enough to be told something like that even if it's a real positive for them.

edit: super upvote for the communication thing. I'm a consistent bitch when it comes to talking to even the most obviously interested girls near me in any public scenario, and I don't think it's supposed to be as bad as it is.





kleinbl00  ·  3863 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think it helps to understand that everyone experiences doubt no matter how zealous they appear. Your words may not be listened to in the moment, but they'll be heard. Sometimes it takes years but every scratch you put into the monolith hastens its eventual crumble.

Besides, when your alternative is to strengthen it through adversity, you literally have nothing to lose. Not even that self-righteous satisfaction of telling them off is real - you're just filling a role built into the conflict by the person you should be mad at. It's counter-productive.

nowaypablo  ·  3863 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hard to keep resilience in the hopes that what they hear will be listened to eventually, but I guess you're right.

Sidenote on this, watch Red State. JTHipster, can I get a backup on this? It's among the most severely underrated films in recent years and features some of the best lead role acting I've seen in a long, long time-- but anyway it relates to the cult psychology that we're talking about here, worth an hour and a half.