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veen  ·  3695 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Are Malls Over?

    Had to check the date of the article to make sure it wasn't written in 2002.

I think people have been saying this since the oil crisis of '73. Besides, isn't there a rule in journalism that titles that end with a question mark are never true, because if they were, they would make that a statement (Malls are dying, hear hear!) ?

I don't think the concept of the mall is dying. Sure, the old and ugly malls in places where spendable income is declining will wither away, but that's true of most businesses. I do think they're starting to look more like European city centres (busy streets with shops and people living above them; maybe you have a different idea of what a European city center is about?) because it is a much more durable concept. Especially combined with transit oriented development. I hope they start to realize that shopping and housing is a combination that creates healthy living environments and better city centres.





kleinbl00  ·  3694 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I do think they're starting to look more like European city centres (busy streets with shops and people living above them; maybe you have a different idea of what a European city center is about?)

You're describing "mixed use" which is certainly on the upswing (thankfully). That's a far cry from, say, Americana.

As a European you might not fully understand how predatory an environment your average mall is. They keep the air dry so that you're thirsty. They minimize spaces you can actually stop and reflect. Mall 2.0 is a little better, but they still tend to assemble "sitting places" around munchie vendors. Meanwhile, the shops you find in an average "European city center" tend to serve the people who live there - you will find bodegas, you will find dry goods, you will find notions in amongst the Prada and Rolex. A pint of milk is a damn hard thing to buy at your average mall; so's a watch battery.

Malls - including The Grove, including Americana, including City Center in Vegas, which are all Caruso projects - are destinations. They lack basic amenities. The parking is a mess. Their condos are all heinously undersold. This is why I keep resisting your "European city center" idea - there's a cachet to living in Paris or Zurich or Padua or whatever. "Americana?" Your big draw is a Bloomingdale's in Burbank.